From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
will.deacon@arm.com, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Alexander Kuleshov <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends()
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:02:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171011160252.GF3521@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6544.1507735704@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 04:28:24PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Placing the comment on the same line makes it less likely that some
> > later change will move the comment away from the load that it applies to.
>
> The problem with your 'address dep' comment is that it's not particularly
> useful.
>
> Either your comment needs to say "dep between X and Y", but if the following is
> always the dep:
>
> Y = READ_ONCE(X)
> access(*Y)
>
> then the comment is superfluous.
In assoc_array.c, the access is often quite some distance from the
corresponding READ_ONCE().
> If it's not always true then your comment needs to indicate what the dependency
> is.
Given that most READ_ONCE() calls aren't heading dependency chains,
a comment indicating that a particular READ_ONCE() does head a dependency
chain does provide at least some information. But, as you say below...
> The other thing your comment could/should say is where the other barrier is -
> barriers always have to be paired as a general rule. (I know I haven't put
> these comments in here - but I've been doing that recently).
I would welcome a patch that added the comments or help with what
the comments should say.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-11 16:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-10 0:19 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/15] Remove to-be-unneeded smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 01/15] doc: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 02/15] mn10300: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 03/15] drivers/net/ethernet/qlogic/qed: Fix __qed_spq_block() ordering Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 04/15] fs/dcache: Use release-acquire for name/length update Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 05/15] percpu: READ_ONCE() now implies smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 14:08 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 14:08 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 15:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:49 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 15:49 ` Tejun Heo
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 06/15] rcu: Adjust read-side accessor comments for READ_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 07/15] rtnetlink: Update now-misleading smp_read_barrier_depends() comment Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 08/15] seqlock: Remove now-redundant smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 09/15] uprobes: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 10/15] locking: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from queued_spin_lock_slowpath() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 11/15] tracepoint: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from comment Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-10 1:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-10 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 9:36 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 9:36 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 13/15] mm/ksm: Remove now-redundant smp_read_barrier_depends() Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 14/15] netfilter: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 15:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 0:22 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 15/15] keyring: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 9:35 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/15] lib/assoc_array: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() David Howells
2017-10-10 9:35 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 15:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-10 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:19 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 12:19 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2017-10-11 12:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 14:18 ` Will Deacon
2017-10-11 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 15:17 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 15:17 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 17:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 18:43 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-11 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-11 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-11 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 19:59 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-11 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 17:19 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-11 17:19 ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-11 16:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 16:07 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 16:07 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-11 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 15:28 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 15:28 ` David Howells
2017-10-11 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-10-11 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-10 9:59 ` David Howells
2017-10-10 15:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-11 12:21 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/15] Remove to-be-unneeded smp_read_barrier_depends() David Howells
2017-10-11 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
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