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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 8/9] x86: use __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE in get_user paths
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 08:38:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180118163818.GB16649@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzCgqjRR=x37fzUecK5ERMBUmBOag-EpM1zQQxFeH2+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:26:08AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> But there are about ~100 set_fs() calls in generic code, and some of
> those really are pretty fundamental. Doing things like "kernel_read()"
> without set_fs() is basically impossible.

Not if we move to iov_iter or iov_iter-like behavior for all reads
and writes.  There is an issue with how vectored writes are handles
in plain read/write vs read_iter/write_iter inherited from readv/writev,
but that's nothing a flag, or a second set of methods with the
same signature.

But there are more annoying things, most notable in-kernel ioctls
calls.  We have quite a few of them, and while many are just utterly
stupid and can be replaced with direct function calls or new methods
(I've done quite a few conversions of those) some might be left.
Something like iov_iter might be the answer again.

Then we have things like probe_kernel_read/probe_kernel_write which
abuse the exception handling in get/put user.  But with a little
arch helper we don't strictly need get_fs/set_fs for that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-18 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-13 18:17 [PATCH v3 0/9] core, x86: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Documentation: document array_ptr Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] arm64: implement ifence_array_ptr() Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] arm: " Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] x86: implement ifence() Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] x86: implement ifence_array_ptr() and array_ptr_mask() Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] asm/nospec: mask speculative execution flows Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:17   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:18 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] x86: introduce __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:18   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:18 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] x86: use __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE in get_user paths Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:18   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 19:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-13 19:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-13 20:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-13 20:22         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16 22:23       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-16 22:23         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <CA+55aFxAFG5czVmCyhYMyHmXLNJ7pcXxWzusjZvLRh_qTGHj6Q@mail.gmail.com>
2018-01-16 22:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 14:17             ` Alan Cox
2018-01-17 18:52               ` Al Viro
2018-01-17 18:52                 ` Al Viro
2018-01-17 19:54                 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17 19:54                   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17 20:05                   ` Al Viro
2018-01-17 20:14                     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-18  3:06                 ` [RFC][PATCH] get rid of the use of set_fs() (by way of kernel_recvmsg()) in sunrpc Al Viro
2018-01-18  3:06                   ` Al Viro
2018-01-18  3:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-18  3:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-18  4:43                     ` Al Viro
2018-01-18 16:29                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-18 16:29                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-18 17:10                         ` Al Viro
2018-01-18 19:31                       ` Al Viro
2018-01-18 20:33                         ` Al Viro
2018-01-19  3:27                         ` Al Viro
2018-01-19  3:27                           ` Al Viro
2018-01-17 19:26               ` [PATCH v3 8/9] x86: use __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE in get_user paths Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 20:01                 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-17 20:01                   ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-18 16:38                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-01-18 16:49                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-18 16:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-18 18:12                     ` Al Viro
2018-01-17  4:30         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17  6:28           ` Al Viro
2018-01-17  6:28             ` Al Viro
2018-01-17  6:50             ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17  6:50               ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17 10:07               ` David Laight
2018-01-17 10:07                 ` David Laight
2018-01-17 18:12               ` Dan Williams
2018-01-17 19:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 19:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-13 18:18 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] vfs, fdtable: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-13 18:18   ` Dan Williams

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