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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, parri.andrea@gmail.com,
	j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr, will.deacon@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	elena.reshetova@intel.com, mhocko@suse.com, akiyks@gmail.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL tools] Linux kernel memory model
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:40:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180202054013.GV3741@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180202044603.i2z3q25jeftbct5c@tardis>

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 12:46:03PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 05:17:28PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> [...]
> > > - A long term question: have you considered and would it make sense to generate a
> > >   memory-barriers.txt like file directly into Documentation/locking/, using the
> > >   formal description? That way any changes/extensions/fixes to the model could be
> > >   tracked on a high level, without readers having to understand the formal
> > >   representation.
> > 
> > I hadn't considered this at all, actually.  ;-)
> > 
> > The sections of memory-barriers.txt dealing with MMIO ordering would need
> > to stay hand-generated, but they are a very small fraction of the total.
> > The herd7 tool is capable of generating cool diagrams sort of like
> > this one: https://static.lwn.net/images/2017/mm-model/rmo-acyclic.png,
> > which might replace at least some of the hand-generated ASCII-art
> > diagrams.
> 
> Which reminds me, one thing we could start with is to try to convert all
> the examples with litmus tests. Has this been done somewhere (e.g. in
> your litmus github repo)? If not, I can try if you think that's a good
> idea.

That would be very helpful, thank you!

There are probably some that are already in the litmus-tests directory,
but I suspect that most are not yet converted.  So please do!

							Thanx, Paul

> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
> > Although I do confess harboring some skepticism about being able to
> > generated high-quality text, there is no denying that it would be
> > valuable to be able to do so.
> > 
> > > In any case, the base commit is certainly nice and clean and I've pulled it into 
> > > tip:locking/core for a v4.17 merge.
> > 
> > Very good!
> > 
> > > I believe these additional improvements (to the extent you agree with doing them!) 
> > > could/should be done as add-on commits on top of this existing commit.
> > 
> > Sounds good!
> > 
> > Would you prefer a pull request or a patch series for these?
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-02  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-25  9:34 [GIT PULL tools] Linux kernel memory model Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-25  9:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-29  6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-29  9:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-31  9:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-31 10:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 10:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 23:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-31 23:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-01  1:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-01  6:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-01 23:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-01 23:14             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-02  4:46         ` Boqun Feng
2018-02-02  5:40           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-02-03  8:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-03 22:10         ` Alan Stern
2018-02-04  9:16           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 10:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 16:29               ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-05  5:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-04 16:37               ` Alan Stern
2018-02-05  7:19                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08 18:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-08 20:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-08 20:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-09  9:11     ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09  9:11       ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09 11:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 12:41         ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09 12:41           ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-09 12:56           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 12:56             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 11:33   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-09 11:33     ` Paul E. McKenney

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