From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: David Goldblatt <davidtgoldblatt@gmail.com>,
mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
triegel@redhat.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
peterz@infradead.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com,
dhowells@redhat.com, j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr,
akiyks@gmail.com, dlustig@nvidia.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux: Implement membarrier function
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:52:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212215245.GC4170@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1812121604430.1543-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 04:32:50PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > OK. How about this one?
> >
> > P0 P1 P2 P3
> > Wa=2 rcu_read_lock() Wc=2 Wd=2
> > memb Wb=2 Rd=0 synchronize_rcu();
> > Rb=0 Rc=0 Ra=0
> > rcu_read_unlock()
> >
> > The model should say that it is allowed. Taking a look...
> >
> > P0 P1 P2 P3
> > Rd=0
> > Wd=2
> > synchronize_rcu();
> > Ra=0
> > Wa=2
> > membs
> > rcu_read_lock()
> > [m01]
> > Rc=0
> > Wc=2
> > [m02] [m03]
> > membe
> > Rb=0
> > Wb=2
> > rcu_read_unlock()
> >
> > Looks allowed to me. If the synchronization of P1 and P2 were
> > interchanged, it should be forbidden:
> >
> > P0 P1 P2 P3
> > Wa=2 Wb=2 rcu_read_lock() Wd=2
> > memb Rc=0 Wc=2 synchronize_rcu();
> > Rb=0 Rd=0 Ra=0
> > rcu_read_unlock()
> >
> > Taking a look...
> >
> > P0 P1 P2 P3
> > rcu_read_lock()
> > Rd=0
> > Wa=2 Wb=2 Wd=2
> > membs synchronize_rcu();
> > [m01]
> > Rc=0
> > Wc=2
> > rcu_read_unlock()
> > [m02] Ra=0 [Forbidden?]
> > membe
> > Rb=0
For one thing, Wb=2 needs to be down here, apologies! Which then ...
> Have you tried writing these as real litmus tests and running them
> through herd?
That comes later, but yes, I will do that.
> > I believe that this ordering forbids the cycle:
> >
> > Wa=1 > membs -> [m01] -> Rc=0 -> Wc=2 -> rcu_read_unlock() ->
> > return from synchronize_rcu() -> Ra
> >
> > Does this make sense, or am I missing something?
>
> It's hard to tell. What you have written here isn't justified by the
> litmus test source code, since the position of m01 in P1's program
> order is undetermined. How do you justify m01 -> Rc, for example?
... justifies Rc=0 following [m01].
> Write it this way instead, using the relations defined in the
> sys_membarrier patch for linux-kernel.cat:
>
> memb ->memb-gp memb ->rcu-link Rc ->memb-rscsi Rc ->rcu-link
>
> rcu_read_unlock ->rcu-rscsi rcu_read_lock ->rcu-link
>
> synchronize_rcu ->rcu-gp synchronize_rcu ->rcu-link memb
>
> Recall that:
>
> memb-gp is the identity relation on sys_membarrier events,
>
> rcu-link includes (po? ; fre ; po),
>
> memb-rscsi is the identity relation on all events,
>
> rcu-rscsi links unlocks to their corresponding locks, and
>
> rcu-gp is the identity relation on synchronize_rcu events.
>
> These facts justify the cycle above.
>
> Leaving off the final rcu-link step, the sequence matches the
> definition of rcu-fence (the relations are memb-gp, memb-rscsi,
> rcu-rscsi, rcu-gp with rcu-links in between). Therefore the cycle is
> forbidden.
Understood, but that would be using the model to check the model. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
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2018-12-06 21:54 ` [PATCH] Linux: Implement membarrier function Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-06 21:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-10 16:22 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-10 16:22 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-10 18:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-10 18:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 16:21 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-11 16:21 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-11 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-11 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-11 21:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 21:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 17:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 17:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 18:04 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 18:04 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 21:32 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 21:32 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-12-12 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 22:12 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 22:12 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-12 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-13 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-13 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 0:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 0:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 2:26 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 2:26 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 5:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 5:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 15:31 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 15:31 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 18:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 18:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-14 21:39 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 21:39 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-16 18:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-16 18:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-17 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-17 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-17 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-17 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 22:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-12 22:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 6:42 ` David Goldblatt
2018-12-11 6:42 ` David Goldblatt
2018-12-11 14:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-12-11 14:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
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