From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:25:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190531082528.GJ2623@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190530185358.GG28207@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:53:58AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:22:42AM -0700, Vineet Gupta wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Had an interesting lunch time discussion with our hardware architects pertinent to
> > "minimal guarantees expected of a CPU" section of memory-barriers.txt
> >
> >
> > | (*) These guarantees apply only to properly aligned and sized scalar
> > | variables. "Properly sized" currently means variables that are
> > | the same size as "char", "short", "int" and "long". "Properly
> > | aligned" means the natural alignment, thus no constraints for
> > | "char", two-byte alignment for "short", four-byte alignment for
> > | "int", and either four-byte or eight-byte alignment for "long",
> > | on 32-bit and 64-bit systems, respectively.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure how to interpret "natural alignment" for the case of double
> > load/stores on 32-bit systems where the hardware and ABI allow for 4 byte
> > alignment (ARCv2 LDD/STD, ARM LDRD/STRD ....)
> >
> > I presume (and the question) that lkmm doesn't expect such 8 byte load/stores to
> > be atomic unless 8-byte aligned
>
> I would not expect 8-byte accesses to be atomic on 32-bit systems unless
> some special instruction was in use. But that usually means special
> intrinsics or assembly code.
If the GCC of said platform defaults to the double-word instructions for
long long, then I would very much expect natural alignment on it too.
If the feature is only available through inline asm or intrinsics, then
we can be a little more lenient perhaps.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-31 8:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-30 18:22 single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 18:22 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-30 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-30 19:16 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 19:16 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-31 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-05-31 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-03 18:08 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:08 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 20:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 20:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 21:59 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 21:59 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-04 7:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-04 7:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06 9:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 9:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 9:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06 9:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06 16:34 ` David Laight
2019-06-06 16:34 ` David Laight
2019-06-06 21:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 21:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:43 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:43 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-01 20:05 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-01 20:05 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-02 10:46 ` Will Deacon
2019-07-02 10:46 ` Will Deacon
2019-05-31 9:41 ` David Laight
2019-05-31 9:41 ` David Laight
2019-05-31 11:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-31 11:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:44 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:44 ` Vineet Gupta
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