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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:25:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190531082528.GJ2623@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190530185358.GG28207@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:53:58AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:22:42AM -0700, Vineet Gupta wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > Had an interesting lunch time discussion with our hardware architects pertinent to
> > "minimal guarantees expected of a CPU" section of memory-barriers.txt
> > 
> > 
> > |  (*) These guarantees apply only to properly aligned and sized scalar
> > |     variables.  "Properly sized" currently means variables that are
> > |     the same size as "char", "short", "int" and "long".  "Properly
> > |     aligned" means the natural alignment, thus no constraints for
> > |     "char", two-byte alignment for "short", four-byte alignment for
> > |     "int", and either four-byte or eight-byte alignment for "long",
> > |     on 32-bit and 64-bit systems, respectively.
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure how to interpret "natural alignment" for the case of double
> > load/stores on 32-bit systems where the hardware and ABI allow for 4 byte
> > alignment (ARCv2 LDD/STD, ARM LDRD/STRD ....)
> > 
> > I presume (and the question) that lkmm doesn't expect such 8 byte load/stores to
> > be atomic unless 8-byte aligned
> 
> I would not expect 8-byte accesses to be atomic on 32-bit systems unless
> some special instruction was in use.  But that usually means special
> intrinsics or assembly code.

If the GCC of said platform defaults to the double-word instructions for
long long, then I would very much expect natural alignment on it too.

If the feature is only available through inline asm or intrinsics, then
we can be a little more lenient perhaps.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-31  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-30 18:22 single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 18:22 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-30 18:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-30 19:16   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 19:16     ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-31  8:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-05-31  8:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-03 18:08   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:08     ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 20:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 20:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 21:59       ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 21:59         ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-04  7:41       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-04  7:41         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06  9:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  9:43           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  9:53           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06  9:53             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06 16:34           ` David Laight
2019-06-06 16:34             ` David Laight
2019-06-06 21:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 21:17               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:43   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:43     ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-01 20:05   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-01 20:05     ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-02 10:46     ` Will Deacon
2019-07-02 10:46       ` Will Deacon
2019-05-31  9:41 ` David Laight
2019-05-31  9:41   ` David Laight
2019-05-31 11:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-31 11:44     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:44   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 18:44     ` Vineet Gupta

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