From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>, Ursula Braun <ubraun@linux.ibm.com>, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, David Windsor <dave@nullcore.net>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Laur Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 09/38] usercopy: Mark kmalloc caches as usercopy caches Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 09:41:34 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20200203174134.GC30011@infradead.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200203074644.GD8731@bombadil.infradead.org> On Sun, Feb 02, 2020 at 11:46:44PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > gives the hardware access to completely unrelated memory.) Instead, > > they get pages from the page allocator, and these pages may e.g. be > > allocated from the DMA, DMA32 or NORMAL zones depending on the > > restrictions imposed by hardware. So I think the usercopy restriction > > only affects a few oddball drivers (like this s390 stuff), which is > > why you're not seeing more bug reports caused by this. > > Getting pages from the page allocator is true for dma_alloc_coherent() > and friends. dma_alloc_coherent also has a few other memory sources than the page allocator.. > But it's not true for streaming DMA mappings (dma_map_*) > for which the memory usually comes from kmalloc(). If this is something > we want to fix (and I have an awful feeling we're going to regret it > if we say "no, we trust the hardware"), we're going to have to come up > with a new memory allocation API for these cases. Or bounce bugger the > memory for devices we don't trust. There aren't too many places that use slab allocations for streaming mappings, and then do usercopies into them. But I vaguely remember some usb code getting the annotations for that a while ago. But if you don't trust your hardware you will need to use IOMMUs and page aligned memory, or IOMMUs plus bounce buffering for the kmalloc allocations (we've recently grown code to do that for the intel-iommu driver, which needs to be lifted into the generic IOMMU code).
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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>, Ursula Braun <ubraun@linux.ibm.com>, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, David Windsor <dave@nullcore.net>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Dave Kleikamp <dave.kleikamp@oracle.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>, Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 09/38] usercopy: Mark kmalloc caches as usercopy caches Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 09:41:34 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20200203174134.GC30011@infradead.org> (raw) Message-ID: <20200203174134.FH1D16Wg437t-rxbMPXqE4pocHgFvbdz6o75X8ESdEs@z> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200203074644.GD8731@bombadil.infradead.org> On Sun, Feb 02, 2020 at 11:46:44PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > gives the hardware access to completely unrelated memory.) Instead, > > they get pages from the page allocator, and these pages may e.g. be > > allocated from the DMA, DMA32 or NORMAL zones depending on the > > restrictions imposed by hardware. So I think the usercopy restriction > > only affects a few oddball drivers (like this s390 stuff), which is > > why you're not seeing more bug reports caused by this. > > Getting pages from the page allocator is true for dma_alloc_coherent() > and friends. dma_alloc_coherent also has a few other memory sources than the page allocator.. > But it's not true for streaming DMA mappings (dma_map_*) > for which the memory usually comes from kmalloc(). If this is something > we want to fix (and I have an awful feeling we're going to regret it > if we say "no, we trust the hardware"), we're going to have to come up > with a new memory allocation API for these cases. Or bounce bugger the > memory for devices we don't trust. There aren't too many places that use slab allocations for streaming mappings, and then do usercopies into them. But I vaguely remember some usb code getting the annotations for that a while ago. But if you don't trust your hardware you will need to use IOMMUs and page aligned memory, or IOMMUs plus bounce buffering for the kmalloc allocations (we've recently grown code to do that for the intel-iommu driver, which needs to be lifted into the generic IOMMU code).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-03 17:41 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-01-11 2:02 [PATCH v5 00/38] Hardened usercopy whitelisting Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 01/38] usercopy: Remove pointer from overflow report Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 02/38] usercopy: Enhance and rename report_usercopy() Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 17:06 ` Christopher Lameter 2018-01-11 17:06 ` Christopher Lameter 2018-01-14 20:57 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-14 20:57 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 03/38] usercopy: Include offset in hardened usercopy report Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 04/38] lkdtm/usercopy: Adjust test to include an offset to check reporting Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 05/38] stddef.h: Introduce sizeof_field() Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 06/38] usercopy: Prepare for usercopy whitelisting Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 07/38] usercopy: WARN() on slab cache usercopy region violations Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 08/38] usercopy: Allow strict enforcement of whitelists Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 09/38] usercopy: Mark kmalloc caches as usercopy caches Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2019-11-12 7:17 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jiri Slaby 2019-11-12 7:17 ` Jiri Slaby 2019-11-12 21:21 ` Kees Cook 2019-11-12 21:21 ` Kees Cook 2019-11-14 21:27 ` Kees Cook 2019-11-14 21:27 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-23 8:14 ` Jiri Slaby 2020-01-23 8:14 ` Jiri Slaby 2020-01-27 23:19 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-27 23:19 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-28 7:58 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-28 7:58 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-28 23:01 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-28 23:01 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-29 9:26 ` Ursula Braun 2020-01-29 9:26 ` Ursula Braun 2020-01-29 16:43 ` Christopher Lameter 2020-01-29 16:43 ` Christopher Lameter 2020-01-29 17:07 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-29 17:07 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-29 17:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-01-29 17:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-01-29 17:19 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-29 17:19 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-01-30 19:23 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-30 19:23 ` Kees Cook 2020-01-31 12:03 ` Jann Horn 2020-01-31 12:03 ` Jann Horn 2020-02-01 17:56 ` Kees Cook 2020-02-01 17:56 ` Kees Cook 2020-02-01 19:27 ` Jann Horn 2020-02-01 19:27 ` Jann Horn 2020-02-03 7:46 ` Matthew Wilcox 2020-02-03 7:46 ` Matthew Wilcox 2020-02-03 17:41 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message] 2020-02-03 17:41 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-02-03 17:20 ` Christopher Lameter 2020-02-03 17:20 ` Christopher Lameter 2020-04-07 8:00 ` Vlastimil Babka 2020-04-07 8:00 ` Vlastimil Babka 2020-04-07 11:05 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-04-07 11:05 ` Christian Borntraeger 2020-04-20 7:53 ` Jiri Slaby 2020-04-20 7:53 ` Jiri Slaby 2020-04-20 17:43 ` Kees Cook 2020-04-20 17:43 ` Kees Cook 2020-02-03 17:38 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-02-03 17:38 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-02-03 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-02-03 17:36 ` Christoph Hellwig 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 10/38] dcache: Define usercopy region in dentry_cache slab cache Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 11/38] vfs: Define usercopy region in names_cache slab caches Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 12/38] vfs: Copy struct mount.mnt_id to userspace using put_user() Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 13/38] ext4: Define usercopy region in ext4_inode_cache slab cache Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 17:01 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-11 17:01 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-11 23:05 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-14 22:34 ` Matthew Wilcox 2018-01-14 22:34 ` Matthew Wilcox 2018-01-11 23:05 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 14/38] ext2: Define usercopy region in ext2_inode_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 15/38] jfs: Define usercopy region in jfs_ip " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 16/38] befs: Define usercopy region in befs_inode_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 17/38] exofs: Define usercopy region in exofs_inode_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 18/38] orangefs: Define usercopy region in orangefs_inode_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 19/38] ufs: Define usercopy region in ufs_inode_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 20/38] vxfs: Define usercopy region in vxfs_inode " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 21/38] cifs: Define usercopy region in cifs_request " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 22/38] scsi: Define usercopy region in scsi_sense_cache " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 23/38] net: Define usercopy region in struct proto " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 24/38] ip: Define usercopy region in IP " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 25/38] caif: Define usercopy region in caif " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 26/38] sctp: Define usercopy region in SCTP " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` [PATCH 27/38] sctp: Copy struct sctp_sock.autoclose to userspace using put_user() Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:02 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-18 21:31 ` Laura Abbott 2018-01-18 21:31 ` Laura Abbott 2018-01-18 21:36 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-18 21:36 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 28/38] net: Restrict unwhitelisted proto caches to size 0 Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 29/38] fork: Define usercopy region in mm_struct slab caches Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 30/38] fork: Define usercopy region in thread_stack " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 31/38] fork: Provide usercopy whitelisting for task_struct Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 32/38] x86: Implement thread_struct whitelist for hardened usercopy Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 33/38] arm64: " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-15 12:24 ` Dave P Martin 2018-01-15 12:24 ` Dave P Martin 2018-01-15 20:06 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-15 20:06 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-16 12:33 ` Dave Martin 2018-01-16 12:33 ` Dave Martin 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 34/38] arm: " Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 10:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2018-01-11 10:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2018-01-11 23:21 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 23:21 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 35/38] kvm: whitelist struct kvm_vcpu_arch Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 36/38] kvm: x86: fix KVM_XEN_HVM_CONFIG ioctl Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 37/38] usercopy: Restrict non-usercopy caches to size 0 Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` [PATCH 38/38] lkdtm: Update usercopy tests for whitelisting Kees Cook 2018-01-11 2:03 ` Kees Cook
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