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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, gustavo@embeddedor.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, paulmck@kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	"Steven Rostedt (VMware)" <rosted@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/9] perf,tracing: Prepare the perf-trace interface for RCU changes
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:38:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200213183825.GA207225@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200213082951.GK14897@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:29:51AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 06:28:30PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:01:45PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > The tracepoint interface will stop providing regular RCU context; make
> > > sure we do it ourselves, since perf makes use of regular RCU protected
> > > data.
> > > 
> > > Suggested-by: Steven Rostedt (VMware) <rosted@goodmis.org>
> > > Suggested-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/events/core.c |    5 +++++
> > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > --- a/kernel/events/core.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
> > > @@ -8950,6 +8950,7 @@ void perf_tp_event(u16 event_type, u64 c
> > >  {
> > >  	struct perf_sample_data data;
> > >  	struct perf_event *event;
> > > +	unsigned long rcu_flags;
> > 
> > The flags are not needed I guess, if you agree on not using in_nmi() in
> > trace_rcu_enter().
> 
> Even then we need to store the state: 'didn't do nothing' vs 'did call
> rcu_needs_to_wake_up_and_pay_attention_noaw'. That is, we only need to
> do something (expensive!) when !rcu_is_watching().

You are right, that sounds good. I was talking to Paul and we chatted that if
in_nmi() is safe (which I believe it is as we are not calling RCU before you
update the preempt counts), then in RCU we can replace the @irq with
!in_nmi() and simplify that code.  Then we can simplify this bit as well
(keep rcu_flags but only call rcu_irq_enter_irqsave() instead of
rcu_nmi_enter(). May be you can do the RCU internal bits in your v3 or should
those be separate patches? Whatever Paul and you want to do.

thanks,

 - Joel

 - Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-13 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-12 21:01 [PATCH v2 0/9] tracing vs rcu vs nmi Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] rcu: Rename rcu_irq_{enter,exit}_irqson() Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 22:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-12 22:38     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] rcu: Mark rcu_dynticks_curr_cpu_in_eqs() inline Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 22:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13  1:41     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-13 14:25       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] rcu,tracing: Create trace_rcu_{enter,exit}() Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 23:20   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13  8:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-13 13:31       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 13:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 16:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-13 18:56           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 20:44             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 20:44               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 20:54               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 21:19                 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 21:38                   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-13 21:38                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-13 21:50                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 21:50                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 22:04                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-13 22:39                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-14  6:19                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-15 14:59                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-15 14:59                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-17  8:55                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-17 16:31                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18  4:33                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-18 16:12                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18 16:15                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-02-18 16:35                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 17:46                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 17:46                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 20:18                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-19  2:45                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-03-06 18:01                                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-03-06 18:01                                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-03-06 18:47                                             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-06 18:47                                               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-06 19:11                                             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-07  1:58                                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-03-07  1:58                                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-03-06  0:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-02-13 21:48                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-13 22:58                     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 22:58                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13 23:55                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 19:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 19:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 20:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18 20:40                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-18 21:39                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-19  9:57                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-19 12:46                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-12 23:27   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-12 23:27     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13  8:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-13 18:39       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] sched,rcu,tracing: Avoid tracing before in_nmi() is correct Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] x86,tracing: Add comments to do_nmi() Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] perf,tracing: Prepare the perf-trace interface for RCU changes Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 23:28   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-13  8:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-13 18:38       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] tracing: Employ trace_rcu_{enter,exit}() Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] tracing: Remove regular RCU context for _rcuidle tracepoints (again) Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-12 21:01 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] perf,tracing: Allow function tracing when !RCU Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-14  2:28   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-14  2:42     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-14  3:32       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-14  3:32         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-14 20:38   ` Kim Phillips
2020-02-14 22:48     ` Steven Rostedt

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