From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] prctl.2: tfix listing order of prctls
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 12:45:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200513114548.GK21779@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ef9a969-3e16-e21c-f047-e5a471cbc163@gmail.com>
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:31:32PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On 5/13/20 1:21 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:10:53PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> On 5/12/20 6:36 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>> The prctl list has historically been sorted by prctl name (ignoring
> >>> any SET_ or GET_ prefix) to make individual prctls easier to find.
> >>> Some noise seems to have crept in since.
> >>>
> >>> Sort the list back into order. Similarly, reorder the list of
> >>> prctls specified to return non-zero values on success.
> >>
> >> This is a good patch. But see my comments on patch 04.
> >> I'd prefer a patch like this at the end of a series,
> >> rather than in the middle of it.
> >
> > Ack.
> >
> > Ideally we could check the order with a script, but that seemed a step
> > too far.
>
> Quite.
>
> > What's the view on having parts of the man pages generated, rather then
> > being distributed ready-built?
>
> I'm not keen (until someone shows me compelling benefits). Splitting
> things up would make pages harder to edit, and IMO increase
> the chance for inconsistencies in pages.
Fair enough. I might experiment with something, but I won't expect an
easy sell!
This sort of thing was part of my motivation for having a distinctive
marker for the start of each prctl entry.
>
> > If we split prctl.2 up with a fragment per prctl, we could paste the
> > fragments together in the right order with a script.
> >
> >>
> >>> Content movement only. No semantic change.
> >>
> >> And explicitly noting that detail is very helpful to me.
> >
> > Unless of course I'm lying ;) (I'm not, but I won't be offended if you
> > check.)
>
> Actually, with your first two patches, you impressed right out of
> the gate, so my "I'm gonna blindly trust this guy" needle already
> switched up pretty high :-).
I guess I'll need to be careful...
Cheers
---Dave
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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] prctl.2: tfix listing order of prctls
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 12:45:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200513114548.GK21779@arm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20200513114548.itFEk1rXR4iQ4CjFSqu0dRsPnPx5aEfDifIncS5bNOY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ef9a969-3e16-e21c-f047-e5a471cbc163@gmail.com>
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:31:32PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On 5/13/20 1:21 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:10:53PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> On 5/12/20 6:36 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>> The prctl list has historically been sorted by prctl name (ignoring
> >>> any SET_ or GET_ prefix) to make individual prctls easier to find.
> >>> Some noise seems to have crept in since.
> >>>
> >>> Sort the list back into order. Similarly, reorder the list of
> >>> prctls specified to return non-zero values on success.
> >>
> >> This is a good patch. But see my comments on patch 04.
> >> I'd prefer a patch like this at the end of a series,
> >> rather than in the middle of it.
> >
> > Ack.
> >
> > Ideally we could check the order with a script, but that seemed a step
> > too far.
>
> Quite.
>
> > What's the view on having parts of the man pages generated, rather then
> > being distributed ready-built?
>
> I'm not keen (until someone shows me compelling benefits). Splitting
> things up would make pages harder to edit, and IMO increase
> the chance for inconsistencies in pages.
Fair enough. I might experiment with something, but I won't expect an
easy sell!
This sort of thing was part of my motivation for having a distinctive
marker for the start of each prctl entry.
>
> > If we split prctl.2 up with a fragment per prctl, we could paste the
> > fragments together in the right order with a script.
> >
> >>
> >>> Content movement only. No semantic change.
> >>
> >> And explicitly noting that detail is very helpful to me.
> >
> > Unless of course I'm lying ;) (I'm not, but I won't be offended if you
> > check.)
>
> Actually, with your first two patches, you impressed right out of
> the gate, so my "I'm gonna blindly trust this guy" needle already
> switched up pretty high :-).
I guess I'll need to be careful...
Cheers
---Dave
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2020-05-12 16:36 [PATCH 00/14] prctl.2 man page updates for Linux 5.6 Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 01/14] prctl.2: tfix clarify that prctl can apply to threads Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-2-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 03/14] prctl.2: tfix mis-description of thread ID values in procfs Dave Martin
2020-05-13 8:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 04/14] prctl.2: srcfix add comments for navigation Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:09 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:56 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513105620.GE21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:15 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513111557.GG21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <022b1d7f-8381-a9a8-b5aa-907143fd4831-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-1-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 02/14] prctl.2: Add health warning Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-3-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:13 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513111340.GF21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <7218089f-20df-52b3-e1d4-ac63e0215efc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:41 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:41 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 05/14] prctl.2: tfix listing order of prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <1bb991f4-176a-a74e-01fc-c73b49ed77f5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513112133.GH21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:45 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2020-05-13 11:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 06/14] prctl.2: ffix quotation mark tweaks Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-7-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <7afe32a5-9675-74d4-7c39-f1271d475afd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:39 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:39 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <f575e35d-cd5e-5808-bed4-91bdfb9c2905-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 07/14] prctl.2: Document removal of Intel MPX prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:41 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-8-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 09/14] prctl.2: tfix minor punctuation in SPECULATION_CTRL prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-10-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 10/14] prctl.2: Add PR_SPEC_INDIRECT_BRANCH for " Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-11-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:49 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513114915.GL21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 12:06 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 12:06 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <604879eb-1c7e-d08b-a6b8-165e4259b60c-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 13:53 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 13:53 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 12/14] prctl.2: Clarify the unsupported hardware case of EINVAL Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 08/14] prctl.2: Work around bogus constant "maxsig" in PR_SET_PDEATHSIG Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-9-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 11/14] prctl.2: Add PR_SPEC_DISABLE_NOEXEC for SPECULATION_CTRL prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 13/14] prctl.2: Add SVE prctls (arm64) Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-14-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 8:43 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 8:43 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 10:46 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:46 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <a01fc572-cac8-1932-c3e5-c70184417ca3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 14:02 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 14:02 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513140200.GP21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 21:11 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 21:11 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:37 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-26 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-26 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] prctl.2: Add PR_PAC_RESET_KEYS (arm64) Dave Martin
2020-05-13 7:25 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 14:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 14:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513143653.GQ21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 21:00 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 21:00 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:11 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-18 16:11 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200518161128.GB21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-18 16:29 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:29 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 11:28 ` [PATCH 00/14] prctl.2 man page updates for Linux 5.6 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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