From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] prctl.2: srcfix add comments for navigation
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 12:51:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200513115156.GN21779@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <022b1d7f-8381-a9a8-b5aa-907143fd4831-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:48:36PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On 5/13/20 1:15 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> On 5/13/20 12:56 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:09:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/12/20 6:36 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>>>> The prctl.2 source is unnecessarily hard to navigate, not least
> >>>>> because prctl option flags are traditionally named PR_* and so look
> >>>>> just like prctl names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For each actual prctl, add a comment of the form
> >>>>>
> >>>>> .\" prctl PR_FOO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to make it move obvious where each top-level prctl starts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course, we could add some clever macros, but let's not confuse
> >>>>> dumb parsers.
> >>>>
> >>>> A patch like this, which makes sweeping changes across the page,
> >>>> should be best placed at the end of a series, I think.
> >>>> The reason is that if I fail to apply this patch (and I am a
> >>>> little dubious about it), then probably the rest of the patches
> >>>> in the series won't apply. (Furthermore, it also forced me to
> >>>> apply patch 02 already, which I wanted to reflect on a little.)
> >>>
> >>> Agreed, I'll try to do that in future.
> >>>
> >>>> That said, I'll apply it, so that the remaining patches
> >>>> apply cleanly. I'll consider later whether to keep this
> >>>> change. For example, I wonder if a visually distinctive
> >>>> source line that is always the same would be better than
> >>>> these comments that repeat the PR_* names. For example,
> >>>> something like
> >>>>
> >>>> .\" ==========================
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll circle back to this later.
> >>>
> >>> I'd prefer to keep the name if we can, since navigating by search is
> >>> otherwise bothersome due to false hits.
> >>>
> >>> Could we do both, say:
> >>>
> >>> .\" === PR_FOO ===
> >>
> >> Okay -- I'll give that some thought.
> >>
> >>> If you prefer to reject this patch, I'm happy to rebase and repost the
> >>> series as appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> In any case, this one is nice to have rather than essential.
> >>
> >> For now, the patch is already committed and pushed.
> >
> > OK, thanks. I'm happy to write a further patch when you've decided what
> > to do, if it saves you work.
>
> Let's leave this for the moment. Once the dust settles on your
> remaining patches, I'll try to remember to circle back on this.
OK, give me a should if you need anything from me.
Cheers
---Dave
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] prctl.2: srcfix add comments for navigation
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 12:51:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200513115156.GN21779@arm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20200513115157.mj87lhqXQvnHIiRA-PSdsOpBmQmqlF5JvJu2-tGB7ec@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <022b1d7f-8381-a9a8-b5aa-907143fd4831@gmail.com>
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:48:36PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On 5/13/20 1:15 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> On 5/13/20 12:56 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:09:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> >>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/12/20 6:36 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> >>>>> The prctl.2 source is unnecessarily hard to navigate, not least
> >>>>> because prctl option flags are traditionally named PR_* and so look
> >>>>> just like prctl names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For each actual prctl, add a comment of the form
> >>>>>
> >>>>> .\" prctl PR_FOO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to make it move obvious where each top-level prctl starts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course, we could add some clever macros, but let's not confuse
> >>>>> dumb parsers.
> >>>>
> >>>> A patch like this, which makes sweeping changes across the page,
> >>>> should be best placed at the end of a series, I think.
> >>>> The reason is that if I fail to apply this patch (and I am a
> >>>> little dubious about it), then probably the rest of the patches
> >>>> in the series won't apply. (Furthermore, it also forced me to
> >>>> apply patch 02 already, which I wanted to reflect on a little.)
> >>>
> >>> Agreed, I'll try to do that in future.
> >>>
> >>>> That said, I'll apply it, so that the remaining patches
> >>>> apply cleanly. I'll consider later whether to keep this
> >>>> change. For example, I wonder if a visually distinctive
> >>>> source line that is always the same would be better than
> >>>> these comments that repeat the PR_* names. For example,
> >>>> something like
> >>>>
> >>>> .\" ==========================
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll circle back to this later.
> >>>
> >>> I'd prefer to keep the name if we can, since navigating by search is
> >>> otherwise bothersome due to false hits.
> >>>
> >>> Could we do both, say:
> >>>
> >>> .\" === PR_FOO ===
> >>
> >> Okay -- I'll give that some thought.
> >>
> >>> If you prefer to reject this patch, I'm happy to rebase and repost the
> >>> series as appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> In any case, this one is nice to have rather than essential.
> >>
> >> For now, the patch is already committed and pushed.
> >
> > OK, thanks. I'm happy to write a further patch when you've decided what
> > to do, if it saves you work.
>
> Let's leave this for the moment. Once the dust settles on your
> remaining patches, I'll try to remember to circle back on this.
OK, give me a should if you need anything from me.
Cheers
---Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-13 11:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-12 16:36 [PATCH 00/14] prctl.2 man page updates for Linux 5.6 Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 01/14] prctl.2: tfix clarify that prctl can apply to threads Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-2-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 03/14] prctl.2: tfix mis-description of thread ID values in procfs Dave Martin
2020-05-13 8:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 04/14] prctl.2: srcfix add comments for navigation Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:09 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:56 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513105620.GE21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:15 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513111557.GG21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <022b1d7f-8381-a9a8-b5aa-907143fd4831-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-1-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 02/14] prctl.2: Add health warning Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-3-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:13 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513111340.GF21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <7218089f-20df-52b3-e1d4-ac63e0215efc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:41 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:41 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 05/14] prctl.2: tfix listing order of prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <1bb991f4-176a-a74e-01fc-c73b49ed77f5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513112133.GH21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 06/14] prctl.2: ffix quotation mark tweaks Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-7-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <7afe32a5-9675-74d4-7c39-f1271d475afd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:39 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:39 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <f575e35d-cd5e-5808-bed4-91bdfb9c2905-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:51 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 07/14] prctl.2: Document removal of Intel MPX prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:41 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-8-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 09/14] prctl.2: tfix minor punctuation in SPECULATION_CTRL prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-10-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 10/14] prctl.2: Add PR_SPEC_INDIRECT_BRANCH for " Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-11-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 11:49 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513114915.GL21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 12:06 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 12:06 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <604879eb-1c7e-d08b-a6b8-165e4259b60c-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 13:53 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 13:53 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 12/14] prctl.2: Clarify the unsupported hardware case of EINVAL Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 08/14] prctl.2: Work around bogus constant "maxsig" in PR_SET_PDEATHSIG Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-9-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 10:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-13 10:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 11/14] prctl.2: Add PR_SPEC_DISABLE_NOEXEC for SPECULATION_CTRL prctls Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 13/14] prctl.2: Add SVE prctls (arm64) Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1589301419-24459-14-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 8:43 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 8:43 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 10:46 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 10:46 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 11:01 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <a01fc572-cac8-1932-c3e5-c70184417ca3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 14:02 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 14:02 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513140200.GP21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 21:11 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 21:11 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:37 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-26 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-26 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-12 16:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] prctl.2: Add PR_PAC_RESET_KEYS (arm64) Dave Martin
2020-05-13 7:25 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 14:36 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-13 14:36 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200513143653.GQ21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-13 21:00 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 21:00 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:11 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-18 16:11 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20200518161128.GB21779-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-18 16:29 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 16:29 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-13 11:28 ` [PATCH 00/14] prctl.2 man page updates for Linux 5.6 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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