From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
parri.andrea@gmail.com, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro]
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:50:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201007175040.GQ29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201006170525.GA423499@rowland.harvard.edu>
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 01:05:25PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 09:39:54AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 03:48:34PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 12:18:01PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Aside from naming and comment, how about my adding the following?
> > > >
> > > > Thanx, Paul
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > C crypto-control-data-1
> > >
> > > Let's call it something more along the lines of
> > > dependencies-in-nested-expressions. Maybe you can think of something a
> > > little more succinct, but that's the general idea of the test.
> > >
> > > > (*
> > > > * LB plus crypto-mb-data plus data.
> > >
> > > The actual pattern is LB+mb+data.
> > >
> > > > *
> > > > * Result: Never
> > > > *
> > > > * This is an example of OOTA and we would like it to be forbidden.
> > > > * If you want herd7 to get the right answer, you must use herdtools
> > > > * 0f3f8188a326 (" [herd] Fix dependency definition") or later.
> > >
> > > Versions of herd7 prior to commit 0f3f8188a326 ("[herd] Fix dependency
> > > definition") recognize data dependencies only when they flow through an
> > > intermediate local variable. Since the dependency in P1 doesn't, those
> > > versions get the wrong answer for this test.
> > >
> > > > *)
> > > >
> > > > {}
> > > >
> > > > P0(int *x, int *y)
> > > > {
> > > > int r1;
> > > >
> > > > r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> > > > smp_mb();
> > > > WRITE_ONCE(*y, r1);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > P1(int *x, int *y)
> > > > {
> > > > int r2;
> > >
> > > No need for r2.
> >
> > Thank you for looking this over!
> >
> > Like this, then?
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > commit 51898676302d8ebc93856209f7c587f1ac0fdd11
> > Author: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
> > Date: Tue Oct 6 09:38:37 2020 -0700
> >
> > manual/kernel: Add LB+mb+data litmus test
> >
> > Versions of herd7 prior to commit 0f3f8188a326 ("[herd] Fix dependency
> > definition") recognize data dependencies only when they flow through an
> > intermediate local variable. Since the dependency in P1 doesn't, those
> > versions get the wrong answer for this test.
>
> Shouldn't the commit message be different from the actual contents of
> the update? It's supposed to explain why the update was made, not just
> say what it does. How about this:
>
> Test whether herd7 can detect a data dependency when there is no
> intermediate local variable, as in WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y)).
> Commit 0f3f8188a326 fixed an oversight which caused such dependencies
> to be missed.
Much better, thank you! I added "in herdtools" just in case someone was
confused enough to look for this commit in the Linux kernel or some such.
Which I should have done more explicitly in the original, to be sure.
> > Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> >
> > diff --git a/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus b/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..673eec9
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus
> > @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
> > +C LB+mb+data.litmus
>
> Do you normally put ".litmus" at the end of test names? I leave it out,
> including it only in the filename.
No, I don't, and thank you for catching this.
> > +(*
> > + * LB plus crypto-mb-data plus data.
>
> As I said earlier, the actual pattern is LB+mb+data. There's nothing
> "crypto" about this litmus test (for example, no control dependencies).
>
> Besides, it hardly seems worthwhile making the first comment line a
> repeat of the test name immediately above it. Just leave it out.
Done! ;-)
> > + *
> > + * Result: Never
> > + *
> > + * Versions of herd7 prior to commit 0f3f8188a326 ("[herd] Fix dependency
> > + * definition") recognize data dependencies only when they flow through
> > + * an intermediate local variable. Since the dependency in P1 doesn't,
> > + * those versions get the wrong answer for this test.
> > + *)
> > +
> > +{}
> > +
> > +P0(int *x, int *y)
> > +{
> > + int r1;
> > +
> > + r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> > + smp_mb();
> > + WRITE_ONCE(*y, r1);
> > +}
> > +
> > +P1(int *x, int *y)
> > +{
> > + WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y));
> > +}
> > +
> > +exists (0:r1=1)
>
> Otherwise okay.
And here is the updated version.
Thanx, Paul
------------------------------------------------------------------------
commit b7cd60d4b41ad56b32b36b978488f509c4f7e228
Author: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue Oct 6 09:38:37 2020 -0700
manual/kernel: Add LB+mb+data litmus test
Test whether herd7 can detect a data dependency when there is no
intermediate local variable, as in WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y)).
Commit 0f3f8188a326 in herdtools fixed an oversight which caused such
dependencies to be missed.
Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
diff --git a/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus b/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..0cf9a7a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/manual/kernel/C-LB+mb+data.litmus
@@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
+C LB+mb+data
+(*
+ * Result: Never
+ *
+ * Test whether herd7 can detect a data dependency when there is no
+ * intermediate local variable, as in WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y)).
+ * Commit 0f3f8188a326 in herdtools fixed an oversight which caused such
+ * dependencies to be missed.
+ *)
+
+{}
+
+P0(int *x, int *y)
+{
+ int r1;
+
+ r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
+ smp_mb();
+ WRITE_ONCE(*y, r1);
+}
+
+P1(int *x, int *y)
+{
+ WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y));
+}
+
+exists (0:r1=1)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-07 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-01 4:51 Litmus test for question from Al Viro Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-01 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-01 16:36 ` Al Viro
2020-10-01 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-01 19:29 ` Al Viro
2020-10-01 21:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 2:01 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-03 13:22 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-03 15:16 ` Akira Yokosawa
2020-10-03 17:13 ` Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro] Alan Stern
2020-10-03 22:50 ` Akira Yokosawa
2020-10-04 1:40 ` [PATCH] tools: memory-model: Document that the LKMM can easily miss control dependencies Alan Stern
2020-10-04 21:07 ` joel
2020-10-04 23:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 15:15 ` Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro] Luc Maranget
2020-10-05 15:53 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 18:19 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 19:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 19:48 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-06 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-06 17:05 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-07 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-10-07 19:40 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-07 22:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-08 2:25 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-08 2:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-08 14:01 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-08 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 15:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-04 23:31 ` Litmus test for question from Al Viro Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 2:38 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 8:20 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 9:12 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:23 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 15:13 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:16 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 14:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:24 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 14:44 ` joel
2020-10-05 15:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 8:36 ` David Laight
2020-10-05 13:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 16:08 ` joel
2020-10-03 16:11 ` joel
2020-10-04 23:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 2:35 ` Jon Masters
2020-10-04 23:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
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