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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: stern@rowland.harvard.edu, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr, akiyks@gmail.com,
	dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "Verifying and Optimizing Compact NUMA-Aware Locks on Weak Memory Models"
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 05:25:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220829122551.GL6159@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwwlWMmHxD7OPERD@anparri>

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 04:33:23AM +0200, Andrea Parri wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 05:48:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I have not yet done more than glance at this one, but figured I should
> > send it along sooner rather than later.
> > 
> > "Verifying and Optimizing Compact NUMA-Aware Locks on Weak
> > Memory Models", Antonio Paolillo, Hernán Ponce-de-León, Thomas
> > Haas, Diogo Behrens, Rafael Chehab, Ming Fu, and Roland Meyer.
> > https://arxiv.org/abs/2111.15240
> > 
> > The claim is that the queued spinlocks implementation with CNA violates
> > LKMM but actually works on all architectures having a formal hardware
> > memory model.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> Section 4 ends with a discussion about certain "spurious" data races.
> Do we have litmus tests with them?  (I could repro with Dartagnan...)

Their Figure 5 clearly shows a data race, but agreed, their claim is
that this race is prevented by other code not in this litmus test.
Me, I currently suspect that the spurious data race might be due to the
failure to guarantee mutual exclusion, though I have not yet read that
paper carefully.  That is scheduled for tomorrow morning.

							Thanx, Paul

      reply	other threads:[~2022-08-29 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 12:48 "Verifying and Optimizing Compact NUMA-Aware Locks on Weak Memory Models" Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-26 16:21 ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-26 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-26 17:10   ` Alan Stern
2022-08-26 20:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-27 16:00       ` Alan Stern
2022-08-27 17:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-13 11:24       ` Will Deacon
2022-09-13 12:21         ` Dan Lustig
2022-09-16  8:18           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-26 23:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-27 16:05       ` Alan Stern
2022-08-27 16:44         ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-29  2:15           ` Andrea Parri
2022-09-09 11:45           ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-10 12:11             ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-10 15:03               ` Alan Stern
2022-09-10 20:41                 ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-11 10:20                   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-12 10:13                     ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-12 11:10                       ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-14 14:41                         ` Alan Stern
2022-09-12 12:01                       ` Alan Stern
2022-09-11 14:53                   ` Andrea Parri
2022-09-12 10:46                 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-12 12:02                   ` Alan Stern
2022-08-29  2:33 ` Andrea Parri
2022-08-29 12:25   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]

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