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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 11:02:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230314110250.00005685@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f21673e-e5e6-a158-94a4-6ae6724c1f93@arm.com>

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:50:52 +0000
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> On 07/03/2023 12:00, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Fri,  3 Feb 2023 13:50:11 +0000
> > James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:  
> 
> >> On a system that supports cpuhotplug the MADT has to describe every possible
> >> CPU at boot. Under KVM, the vGIC needs to know about every possible vCPU before
> >> the guest is started.
> >> With these constraints, virtual-cpuhotplug is really just a hypervisor/firmware
> >> policy about which CPUs can be brought online.
> >>
> >> This series adds support for virtual-cpuhotplug as exactly that: firmware
> >> policy. This may even work on a physical machine too; for a guest the part of
> >> firmware is played by the VMM. (typically Qemu).
> >>
> >> PSCI support is modified to return 'DENIED' if the CPU can't be brought
> >> online/enabled yet. The CPU object's _STA method's enabled bit is used to
> >> indicate firmware's current disposition. If the CPU has its enabled bit clear,
> >> it will not be registered with sysfs, and attempts to bring it online will
> >> fail. The notifications that _STA has changed its value then work in the same
> >> way as physical hotplug, and firmware can cause the CPU to be registered some
> >> time later, allowing it to be brought online.  
> 
> > As we discussed on an LOD call a while back, I think that we need some path to
> > find out if the guest supports vCPU HP or not so that info can be queried by
> > an orchestrator / libvirt etc.  In general the entity responsible for allocating
> > extra vCPUs may not know what support the VM has for this feature.  
> 
> I agree. For arm64 this is going to be important if/when there are machines that do
> physical hotplug of CPUs too.
> 
> 
> > There are various ways we could get this information into the VMM.
> > My immediate thought is to use one of the ACPI interfaces that lets us write
> > AML that can set an emulated register. A query to the VMM can check if this
> > register is set.
> > 
> > So options.
> > 
> > _OSI() - Deprecated on ARM64 so lets not use that ;)  
> 
> News to me, I've only just discovered it!
> 
> 
> > _OSC() - Could add a bit to Table 6.13 Platform-Wide Capabilites in ACPI 6.5 spec.
> >          Given x86 has a similar online capable bit perhaps this is the best option
> >          though it is the one that requires a formal code first proposal to ASWG.  
> 
> I've had a go at writing this one:
> https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-jm/-/commit/220b0d8b0261d7467c8705e6f614d57325798859

From a quick glance that looks good to me.

> 
> It'll appear in the v1 of the series once the kernel and qemu bits are all lined up again.

We'll also need to kick off the spec change with a code-first proposal.
I think current standard way to do that is a bugzilla entry in EDK2 repo 
https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/buglist.cgi?component=Specification%20Update&product=EDK2%20Code%20First&resolution=---
and the get someone in ASWG to create equivalent tracking issue in mantis.

Great if you already have that in hand via relevant ARM folks.

Jonathan

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> 
> 
> > _OSC() - Could add a new UUID and put it under a suitable device - maybe all CPUs?
> >          You could definitely argue this feature is an operating system property.
> > _DSM() - Similar to OSC but always under a device.
> >          Whilst can be used for this I'm not sure it really matches intended usecase.
> > 
> > Assuming everyone agrees this bit of introspection is useful,
> > Rafael / other ACPI specialists: Any suggestions on how best to do this?  
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-14 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-03 13:50 [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 01/32] ia64: Fix build error due to switch case label appearing next to declaration James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 02/32] ACPI: Move ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to be enabled per architecture James Morse
2023-08-30 18:31   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 03/32] drivers: base: Use present CPUs in GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 04/32] drivers: base: Allow parts of GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES to be overridden James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 05/32] drivers: base: Move cpu_dev_init() after node_dev_init() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 06/32] arm64: setup: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES using arch_register_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 07/32] ia64/topology: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 08/32] x86/topology: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 09/32] LoongArch: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 10/32] arch_topology: Make register_cpu_capacity_sysctl() tolerant to late CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 11/32] ACPI: processor: Add support for processors described as container packages James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 12/32] ACPI: processor: Register CPUs that are online, but not described in the DSDT James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 13/32] ACPI: processor: Register all CPUs from acpi_processor_get_info() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 14/32] ACPI: Rename ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to include 'present' James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 15/32] ACPI: Move acpi_bus_trim_one() before acpi_scan_hot_remove() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/32] ACPI: Rename acpi_processor_hotadd_init and remove pre-processor guards James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 17/32] ACPI: Add post_eject to struct acpi_scan_handler for cpu hotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 18/32] ACPI: Check _STA present bit before making CPUs not present James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 19/32] ACPI: Warn when the present bit changes but the feature is not enabled James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 20/32] drivers: base: Implement weak arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 21/32] LoongArch: Use the __weak version of arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 22/32] arm64: acpi: Move get_cpu_for_acpi_id() to a header James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 23/32] ACPICA: Add new MADT GICC flags fields [code first?] James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 24/32] arm64, irqchip/gic-v3, ACPI: Move MADT GICC enabled check into a helper James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 25/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Don't return errors from gic_acpi_match_gicc() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 26/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Add support for ACPI's disabled but 'online capable' CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 27/32] arm64: psci: Ignore DENIED CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 28/32] ACPI: add support to register CPUs based on the _STA enabled bit James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 29/32] KVM: arm64: Pass hypercalls to userspace James Morse
2023-02-03 21:08   ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  9:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-05 10:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-06 10:10     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 12:31       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07  9:41         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-07 11:23           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07 12:46             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 17:19     ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  8:40       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-08 14:25         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-11  1:44       ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 30/32] KVM: arm64: Pass PSCI calls " James Morse
2023-05-23  9:32   ` Salil Mehta
2023-09-12 17:01     ` James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 31/32] arm64: document virtual CPU hotplug's expectations James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 32/32] cpumask: Add enabled cpumask for present CPUs that can be brought online James Morse
2023-03-07 12:00 ` [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-13 15:50   ` James Morse
2023-03-14 11:02     ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2023-03-29  2:35 ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-12 17:01   ` James Morse
2023-09-12 22:38     ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-13 15:28       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-29  5:52 ` Shaoqin Huang
2023-04-03  6:25   ` Gavin Shan

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