From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 22/40] dept: track PG_locked with dept
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 11:35:42 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260707023542.GA33746@system.software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akvueAxPl8aoLvMR@casper.infradead.org>
On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 07:05:44PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 03:19:10PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > Makes dept able to track PG_locked waits and events, which will be
> > useful in practice. See the following link that shows dept worked with
> > PG_locked and detected real issues in practice:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1674268856-31807-1-git-send-email-byungchul.park@lge.com/
>
> > @@ -219,6 +220,7 @@ struct page {
> > struct page *kmsan_shadow;
> > struct page *kmsan_origin;
> > #endif
> > + struct dept_ext_wgen pg_locked_wgen;
> > } _struct_page_alignment;
>
> I may not understand this quite correctly, but I think that tracking
> PG_locked dependencies in the struct page has both false positive and
> false negative problems.
>
> Imagine we have a file mapping M1 containing folio F1 at index 0 and F2
> at index 1. It is correct locking order to lock F1 before locking F2
> (for example when doing writeback). Later, M1 has its folios reclaimed
> and returned to the free pool. Then each is added to mapping M2, this
> time with folio F2 at index 8 and F1 at index 9. Now the correct order
> to lock these folios in the order F2 followed by F1.
First of all, I appreciate your feedback. Thanks!
That case doesn't generate any dependency unless any other waits are
involved in. That should be handled in xxx_nested manner e.g.
folio_lock_nested() that I need to introduce. The work is in progress.
> I don't see a part of this patch where we clear pg_locked_wgen when the
> page is returned to the page allocator. Maybe I missed that.
You are right. pg_locked_wgen doesn't get cleared. However, DEPT works
this way:
folio_lock()
wait_for_pg_locked_cleared()
set_pg_locked() // (1) update pg_locked_wgen to the current wgen
... // there might be other waits
folio_unlock()
clear_pg_locked() // (2) check if there have been any waits since (1)
In other words, it's guranteed that pg_locked_wgen has been updated e.i.
(1) when DEPT refers to pg_locked_wgen e.i. (2). So I don't think it's
a problem.
> I think we should be tracking PG_locked dependencies in the owner
> of the folio. For files, that would be in the struct address_space.
> For anon memory, I think that's in the anon_vma, but if somebody told
> me it was in some other structure, I wouldn't argue with them.
I think it's a good point but it's a classification issue. folios owned
by struct address_space should be classified to e.g. address_space_class
and ones owned by struct anon_vma should be classified to e.g.
anon_vma_class. I will work on it to apply the insight you just gave
but better do it as follow-up patches since the initial patchset is
already too big to get reviewed.
> This requires slightly more complexity than lockdep currently has.
> We don't want to use a lockdep class for each folio, obviously. So we
> need something to say "I already have folio F1 locked, is it OK to lock
From DEPT's perspective, folio_lock(F1) and folio_lock(F2) are waits and
folio_unlock(F1) and folio_unlock(F2) are events. Since DEPT tracks
dependencies with specified classes between waits and events, DEPT's
interest in the following example is to detect a situation like:
< context X >
folio_lock(address_space_class'ed F1)
...
folio_lock(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed F1)
< context Y >
folio_lock(anon_vma_class'ed any folio)
...
folio_lock(address_space_class'ed any folio)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed any folio)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed any folio)
However, the following pattern should be manually annotated by
developers like using folio_lock_nested() or something. DEPT cannot
work with it automatically:
folio_lock(address_space_class'ed F1)
...
folio_lock(address_space_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed F1)
or
folio_lock(anon_vma_class'ed F1)
...
folio_lock(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed F1)
These should be explicitly annotated by developers if it's intended:
folio_lock(address_space_class'ed F1)
...
folio_lock_nested(address_space_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(address_space_class'ed F1)
or
folio_lock(anon_vma_class'ed F1)
...
folio_lock_nested(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed F2)
...
folio_unlock(anon_vma_class'ed F1)
> folio F2?". Essentially figuring out how we can track all folios in a
> given mapping the same way, and making sure that we don't deadlock on
> folios in the same mapping.
At the moment, as I told you, DEPT cannot work with dependencies between
the same class'ed folios. However, it'd be much better if DEPT can work
with even those cases. Could you provide a scenario where a deadlock
happens between the same class'ed ones? Any idea how to detect for the
cases?
> If F1 and F2 are in different mappings, it's not a deadlock if F1 is in a
> filesystem mapping and F2 is in its backing dev. It's also not a deadlock
> if F1 and F2 are both filesystem folios and the inodes are both locked.
> See vfs_lock_two_folios() in fs/remap_range.c.
Yeah.. DEPT is a tracker to track dependencies between waits and events
even across different contexts, but not a magic unfortunately. That
lock ordering issue - with the same class'ed ones - should be resolved
in the manual manner as vfs_lock_two_folios() does.
> I have much less knowledge about anonymous memory locking order.
> Maybe it doesn't happen. Or about locking one anon and one file folio.
> For slab memory, we don't sleep on PG_locked (it's used as a spinlock bit).
> For other kinds of memory ... I don't know. Page migration is fun.
Anyway, the sophisticated classification you mentioned is necessary for
DEPT to be better especially for folio locking mechanism.
Thanks again!
Byungchul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-07 2:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-06 6:18 [PATCH v19 00/40] DEPT(DEPendency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 01/40] dept: implement " Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 02/40] dept: add single event dependency tracker APIs Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 03/40] dept: add lock " Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 04/40] dept: tie to lockdep and IRQ tracing Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 05/40] dept: add proc knobs to show stats and dependency graph Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 06/40] dept: distinguish each kernel context from another Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 07/40] dept: distinguish each work " Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 08/40] dept: add a mechanism to refill the internal memory pools on running out Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 09/40] dept: record the latest one out of consecutive waits of the same class Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 10/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:18 ` [PATCH v19 11/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to swait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 12/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 13/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 14/40] dept: apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to dma fence Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 15/40] dept: track timeout waits separately with a new Kconfig Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 16/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 17/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to swait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 18/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 19/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 20/40] dept: apply timeout consideration to dma fence wait Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 21/40] dept: make dept able to work with an external wgen Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 22/40] dept: track PG_locked with dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 18:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-07 2:35 ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 23/40] dept: print staged wait's stacktrace on report Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 24/40] locking/lockdep: prevent various lockdep assertions when lockdep_off()'ed Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 25/40] dept: add documents for dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 26/40] cpu/hotplug: use a weaker annotation in AP thread Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 27/40] dept: assign dept map to mmu notifier invalidation synchronization Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 28/40] dept: assign unique dept_key to each distinct dma fence caller Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 29/40] dept: make dept aware of lockdep_set_lock_cmp_fn() annotation Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 30/40] dept: make dept stop from working on debug_locks_off() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 31/40] dept: assign unique dept_key to each distinct wait_for_completion() caller Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 32/40] completion, dept: introduce init_completion_dmap() API Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 33/40] dept: call dept_hardirqs_off() in local_irq_*() regardless of irq state Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 34/40] rcu/update: fix same dept key collision between various types of RCU Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 35/40] dept: introduce APIs to set page usage and use subclasses_evt for the usage Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 36/40] dept: track PG_writeback with dept Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 37/40] SUNRPC: relocate struct rcu_head to the first field of struct rpc_xprt Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 38/40] mm: percpu: increase PERCPU_DYNAMIC_SIZE_SHIFT on DEPT and large PAGE_SIZE Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 39/40] rust: completion: Add __rust_helper to rust_helper_wait_for_completion() Byungchul Park
2026-07-06 6:19 ` [PATCH v19 40/40] dept: implement a basic unit test for dept Byungchul Park
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