From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Arnd Bergmann Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/19] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:29:03 +0200 Message-ID: <2034620.lN3lAEBAXs@wuerfel> References: <1466207668-10549-1-git-send-email-ynorov@caviumnetworks.com> <6457502.FRufylo3sd@wuerfel> <20160811163003.GD18366@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20160811163003.GD18366@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Catalin Marinas Cc: "Zhangjian (Bamvor)" , Yury Norov , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, pinskia@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, joseph@codesourcery.com, christoph.muellner@theobroma-systems.com, szabolcs.nagy@arm.com, klimov.linux@gmail.com, Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com, agraf@suse.de, Prasun.Kapoor@caviumnetworks.com, kilobyte@angband.pl, geert@linux-m68k.org, philipp.tomsich@theobroma-systems.com, manuel.montezelo@gmail.com, linyongting@huawei.com, maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org, davem@davemloft.net, Andrew Pinski , Andrew Pinski , Bamvor Jian Zhang , Hanjun Guo List-Id: linux-arch.vger.kernel.org On Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:30:03 PM CEST Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > and you can have ARM binaries with > > > > PER_LINUX (using the arm64 uname) just like you can have > > > > arm64 binaries running with PER_LINUX32. > > > > > > I was actually looking to enforce the 32-bit binaries to only see > > > PER_LINUX32, though with a risk of breaking the ABI. OTOH, people are > > > abusing this and write 32-bit apps relying on the 64-bit /proc/cpuinfo: > > > > > > http://lkml.kernel.org/g/1464706504-25224-3-git-send-email-catalin.marinas@arm.com > > > > > > (you were summoned on that discussion couple of times ;)) > > > > Hmm, I thought I saw the thread and didn't have any good idea for > > the uname information, but didn't notice it was for /proc/cpuinfo. > > > > What's wrong with always showing both the 32-bit and the 64-bit > > hwcap strings here (minus the duplicates, which hopefully have > > the same meaning here)? > > As I said above, some of them have the same name (which may be a good > thing at a first look) but we don't have an architecture guarantee that > the feature is present in both AArch32 and AArch64 modes (e.g. AES may > only be available in AArch64). Is this the case on actual implementations that exist today? If they are actually always both present, we might be able to get away with it. Arnd From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]:64596 "EHLO mout.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932129AbcHKUaT (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:30:19 -0400 From: Arnd Bergmann Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/19] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:29:03 +0200 Message-ID: <2034620.lN3lAEBAXs@wuerfel> In-Reply-To: <20160811163003.GD18366@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> References: <1466207668-10549-1-git-send-email-ynorov@caviumnetworks.com> <6457502.FRufylo3sd@wuerfel> <20160811163003.GD18366@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-arch-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Catalin Marinas Cc: "Zhangjian (Bamvor)" , Yury Norov , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, pinskia@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, joseph@codesourcery.com, christoph.muellner@theobroma-systems.com, szabolcs.nagy@arm.com, klimov.linux@gmail.com, Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com, agraf@suse.de, Prasun.Kapoor@caviumnetworks.com, kilobyte@angband.pl, geert@linux-m68k.org, philipp.tomsich@theobroma-systems.com, manuel.montezelo@gmail.com, linyongting@huawei.com, maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org, davem@davemloft.net, Andrew Pinski , Andrew Pinski , Bamvor Jian Zhang , Hanjun Guo Message-ID: <20160811202903.aYG6vtDCtZNd9ZZiP3oScu40Odemr14SUaN3_RIUM7Y@z> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:30:03 PM CEST Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > and you can have ARM binaries with > > > > PER_LINUX (using the arm64 uname) just like you can have > > > > arm64 binaries running with PER_LINUX32. > > > > > > I was actually looking to enforce the 32-bit binaries to only see > > > PER_LINUX32, though with a risk of breaking the ABI. OTOH, people are > > > abusing this and write 32-bit apps relying on the 64-bit /proc/cpuinfo: > > > > > > http://lkml.kernel.org/g/1464706504-25224-3-git-send-email-catalin.marinas@arm.com > > > > > > (you were summoned on that discussion couple of times ;)) > > > > Hmm, I thought I saw the thread and didn't have any good idea for > > the uname information, but didn't notice it was for /proc/cpuinfo. > > > > What's wrong with always showing both the 32-bit and the 64-bit > > hwcap strings here (minus the duplicates, which hopefully have > > the same meaning here)? > > As I said above, some of them have the same name (which may be a good > thing at a first look) but we don't have an architecture guarantee that > the feature is present in both AArch32 and AArch64 modes (e.g. AES may > only be available in AArch64). Is this the case on actual implementations that exist today? If they are actually always both present, we might be able to get away with it. Arnd