From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
mingo@redhat.com, alan@redhat.com, linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:59:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2301.1142380768@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17431.14867.211423.851470@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> No, that's not the problem. The problem is that you can get q == &b
> and d == 1, believe it or not. That is, you can see the new value of
> the pointer but the old value of the thing pointed to.
But that doesn't make any sense!
That would mean we that we'd've read b into d before having read the new value
of p into q, and thus before having calculated the address from which to read d
(ie: &b) - so how could we know we were supposed to read d from b and not from
a without first having read p?
Unless, of course, the smp_wmb() isn't effective, and the write to b happens
after the write to p; or the Alpha's cache isn't fully coherent.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-14 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060315200956.4a9e2cb3.akpm@osdl.org>
2006-03-09 20:29 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4] David Howells
2006-03-09 23:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 23:45 ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-09 23:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-10 0:07 ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-10 0:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-10 0:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10 15:19 ` David Howells
2006-03-11 0:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10 5:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 11:10 ` David Howells
2006-03-15 11:51 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 13:47 ` David Howells
2006-03-15 23:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-12 17:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-14 21:26 ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-14 23:59 ` David Howells [this message]
2006-03-15 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15 1:19 ` David Howells
2006-03-15 1:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15 1:25 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 0:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-15 14:23 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #5] David Howells
2006-03-16 23:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-16 23:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17 1:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-17 5:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17 6:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-23 18:34 ` David Howells
2006-03-23 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-23 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <21253.1142509812@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603160914410.3618@g5.osdl.org>
2006-03-17 1:20 ` Nick Piggin
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