From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@linaro.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, andersson@kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
mojha@qti.qualcomm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, jonechou@google.com,
tudor.ambarus@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register information into Kmemdump
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2025 14:18:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23e7ec80-622e-4d33-a766-312c1213e56b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2c031e8-43bd-41e5-9074-c8b1f89e04e6@linaro.org>
On 04.08.25 13:06, Eugen Hristev wrote:
>
>
> On 8/4/25 13:54, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Wed 30-07-25 16:04:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 30.07.25 15:57, Eugen Hristev wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Yes, registering after is also an option. Initially this is how I
>>>> designed the kmemdump API, I also had in mind to add a flag, but, after
>>>> discussing with Thomas Gleixner, he came up with the macro wrapper idea
>>>> here:
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87ikkzpcup.ffs@tglx/
>>>> Do you think we can continue that discussion , or maybe start it here ?
>>>
>>> Yeah, I don't like that, but I can see how we ended up here.
>>>
>>> I also don't quite like the idea that we must encode here what to include in
>>> a dump and what not ...
>>>
>>> For the vmcore we construct it at runtime in crash_save_vmcoreinfo_init(),
>>> where we e.g., have
>>>
>>> VMCOREINFO_STRUCT_SIZE(pglist_data);
>>>
>>> Could we similar have some place where we construct what to dump similarly,
>>> just not using the current values, but the memory ranges?
>>
>> All those symbols are part of kallsyms, right? Can we just use kallsyms
>> infrastructure and a list of symbols to get what we need from there?
>>
>> In other words the list of symbols to be completely external to the code
>> that is defining them?
>
> Some static symbols are indeed part of kallsyms. But some symbols are
> not exported, for example patch 20/29, where printk related symbols are
> not to be exported. Another example is with static variables, like in
> patch 17/29 , not exported as symbols, but required for the dump.
> Dynamic memory regions are not have to also be considered, have a look
> for example at patch 23/29 , where dynamically allocated memory needs to
> be registered.
>
> Do you think that I should move all kallsyms related symbols annotation
> into a separate place and keep it for the static/dynamic regions in place ?
If you want to use a symbol from kmemdump, then make that symbol
available to kmemdump.
IOW, if we were to rip out kmemdump tomorrow, we wouldn't have to touch
any non-kmemdump-specific files.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-04 12:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-24 13:54 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/29] kmemdump: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-26 3:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-26 3:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/29] Documentation: add kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 14:13 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/29] kmemdump: add coreimage ELF layer Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/29] Documentation: kmemdump: add section for coreimage ELF Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/29] kmemdump: introduce qcom-minidump backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/29] soc: qcom: smem: add minidump device Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/29] init/version: Annotate static information into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/29] cpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/29] genirq/irqdesc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/29] panic: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/29] sched/core: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/29] timers: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/29] kernel/fork: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/29] mm/page_alloc: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/29] mm/init-mm: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:54 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/29] mm/show_mem: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 14:04 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/29] mm/swapfile: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/29] mm/percpu: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/29] mm/mm_init: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/29] printk: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/29] kernel/configs: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/29] mm/numa: Register " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 13:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 13:57 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-07-30 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 10:54 ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 11:06 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:18 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-04 12:29 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 13:03 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-04 13:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 12:55 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 13:36 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-25 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 11:59 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 12:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 14:08 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-08-27 20:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 8:57 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 10:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:02 ` Eugen Hristev
2025-09-01 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 12:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 23/29] mm/sparse: " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 24/29] kernel/vmcore_info: Register dynamic " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 25/29] kmemdump: Add additional symbols to the coreimage Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 26/29] init/version: Annotate init uts name separately into Kmemdump Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 27/29] kallsyms: Annotate static information " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 28/29] mm/init-mm: Annotate additional " Eugen Hristev
2025-07-24 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 29/29] kmemdump: Add Kinfo backend driver Eugen Hristev
2025-08-26 17:14 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/29] introduce kmemdump Mukesh Ojha
2025-08-27 6:42 ` Eugen Hristev
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