From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Shamir Rabinovitch <shamir.rabinovitch@oracle.com>,
corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] dma-mapping-common: add DMA attribute - DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:32:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3880193.j0XDKyhAXH@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1446081046.1856.55.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Thursday 29 October 2015 10:10:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> > Maybe we should at least coordinate IOMMU 'paranoid/fast' modes across
> > architectures, and then the DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS flag would have a
> > sane meaning in the paranoid mode (and perhaps we'd want an ultra
> > -paranoid mode where it's not honoured).
>
> Possibly, though ideally that would be a user policy but of course by
> the time you get to userspace it's generally too late.
IIRC, we have an 'iommu=force' command line switch for this, to ensure
that no device can use a linear mapping and everything goes through
the page tables. This is often useful for both debugging and as a
security measure when dealing with unpriviledged DMA access (virtual
machines, vfio, ...).
If we add a DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS attribute, we should clearly document
which of the two we expect to take priority in cases where we have a
choice.
I wonder if the 'iommu=force' attribute is too coarse-grained though,
and if we should perhaps allow a per-device setting on architectures
that allow this.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-30 10:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-25 16:07 [PATCH v1 1/2] dma-mapping-common: add dma_map_page_attrs API Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-25 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] dma-mapping-common: add DMA attribute - DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-28 6:30 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 11:10 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-28 11:10 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-28 13:31 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 13:31 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 14:07 ` David Miller
2015-10-28 13:57 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 13:57 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-29 0:23 ` David Miller
2015-10-29 0:23 ` David Miller
2015-10-28 14:07 ` David Miller
2015-10-29 0:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29 0:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29 0:42 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-29 0:42 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-29 1:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29 1:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-29 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-29 22:35 ` David Woodhouse
2015-11-01 7:45 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-01 7:45 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-01 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-01 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 7:23 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 10:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 12:07 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 20:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 21:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-02 21:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-02 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-03 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-03 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-03 19:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-03 19:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 21:49 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 22:48 ` David Woodhouse
2015-11-02 23:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 23:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-05 21:08 ` David Miller
2015-11-05 21:08 ` David Miller
2015-10-30 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-30 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-30 10:32 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-10-30 10:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-30 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-30 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-30 23:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-02 14:51 ` Joerg Roedel
2015-10-29 7:32 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 14:44 ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-02 17:32 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 17:32 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-05 13:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-05 21:11 ` David Miller
2015-11-05 21:11 ` David Miller
2015-11-07 15:06 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
[not found] ` <CAN+hb0UvztgwNuAh93XdJEe7vgiZgNMc9mHNziHpEopg8Oi4Mg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-16 8:42 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <CAN+hb0UWpfcS5DvgMxNjY-5JOztw2mO1r2FJAW17fn974mhxPA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-16 18:42 ` Benjamin Serebrin
2015-11-16 18:42 ` Benjamin Serebrin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-10-25 16:37 [PATCH v1 1/2] dma-mapping-common: add dma_map_page_attrs API Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-25 16:37 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] dma-mapping-common: add DMA attribute - DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-16 6:56 Benjamin Serebrin
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