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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Linux Arch list <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:35:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <405F7837.2010800@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040322231933.H11212@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:18:30PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>You need both kernel and userspace...  for audio drivers, mmap(2) is 
>>direct to userspace, but read(2) and write(2) must copy_from_user() into 
>>the allocated DMA area.
> 
> 
> Not actually true in this case - audio drivers are either mmap() only
> or read/write only, never both at the same time.

Agreed, but due to OSS dain bramage you can read/write as much as you 
like, up until the mmap point, AFAICS.  It's much easier for the driver 
to allocate one set of buffers, than to allocate a set at open(2), throw 
away those allocs at mmap(2) and make new ones.

	Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-22 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-03-22  3:45                   ` can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  4:41                     ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22  4:46                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  4:56                         ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22  5:26                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 11:58                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 12:05                               ` Russell King
2004-03-22 12:34                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22  9:30                       ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:04                         ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 15:15                           ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:27                             ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 21:50                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 22:18                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 22:35                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:57                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23  0:22                                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23  2:07                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23  9:28                                         ` Russell King
2004-03-23  9:34                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 10:04                                             ` Russell King
2004-03-23 10:05                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 11:29                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 11:35                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 11:44                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 12:34                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:40                                               ` Russell King
2004-03-23 15:25                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:36                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 15:46                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:50                                                     ` Russell King
2004-03-23 22:10                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-25 20:25                                                 ` Russell King
2004-03-28 10:17                                                   ` Russell King
2004-03-23 12:49                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:19                                   ` Russell King
2004-03-22 23:35                                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-03-23  2:26                                       ` James Bottomley

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