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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Chris Zankel <czankel@tensilica.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lots of possible arch breakage in cpu_idle!!
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:18:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <429AF694.4080104@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF7BE04D3C.BB28882F-ONC1257011.003BCCE8-C1257011.003C987D@de.ibm.com>

Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> 
> 
>>s390 - local irq disable before checking need_resched doesn't gain
>>        anything (removed, OK?)
> 
> 
> Well, currently there seems to be only the pfault interrupt that can
> set TIF_NEED_RESCHED and pfault interrupts can't happen for idle. So
> it should work. But if there is any chance that an interrupt will ever
> set TIF_NEED_RESCHED we have to disable the interrupts before doing
> the resched check.

But other processors can set your TIF_NEED_RESCHED too,
so simply disabling local interrupts does not give any
synchronisation of TIF_NEED_RESCHED.

What it can give is a guarantee that some interrupt will
get queued and not processed. This can be used to sleep
the processor until the next interrupt (because when the
other CPU sets TIF_NEED_RESCHED it will also send an IPI).
Now it could well be that this is what you need, in which
case I'm wrong.

However:

   local_irq_disable();
   if (need_resched()) {
     local_irq_enable();
     return;
   }

   /* need_resched() can become true here */

   [... do stuff ...]

Basically you just cut your losses and pick up the
need_resched() when you get around to testing it again.

> As I implemented this I wanted to make absolutly
> sure that we don't miss any reschedule. It works the way it is and
> the additional cycles in idle() for local_irq_disable/local_irq_enable
> won't hurt. I don't see the benefit of the change. Only chances that
> it might break something we haven't thought of.
> 

No, it doesn't hurt (well, it may slightly slow down your
interrupt processing rate, but who's counting!).

However, I would like to try to tighten things up in this
area a bit if possible now that we're looking at it.

Thanks very much,
Nick

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-30 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-29  5:25 Lots of possible arch breakage in cpu_idle!! Nick Piggin
2005-05-29  5:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-29  8:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-05-29 10:03   ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 10:13     ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-05-29 11:39       ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-05-29  9:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-05-29 10:08   ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 10:14     ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-05-29 16:55 ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-29 20:41   ` David S. Miller
2005-05-29 20:56     ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-30  0:37   ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 11:01 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-05-30 11:18   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-05-30 11:34     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-05-30 11:49       ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31  8:56 ` David Howells
2005-05-31  9:02   ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31  9:05     ` David Howells

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