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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] percpu: generalize first chunk allocators and improve lpage NUMA support
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:48:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A4AB24F.6050707@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090630224018.GJ6760@one.firstfloor.org>

Hello, Andi.

Andi Kleen wrote:
>> How would you allow that guest to stay on 2 virtual CPUs but still 
>> be able to hot-plug many other CPUs if the guest context rises above 
>> its original CPU utilization?
> 
> (unless you're planning to rewrite lots of possible cpu users all over
> the tree) -- the only way is to keep the percpu area small and preallocate. 
> 
> As long as the per cpu data size stays reasonable (not more than a 100-200k)
> that's very doable. It probably won't work with 4096 guest CPUs without
> wasting too much memory, but then I don't think we have any Hypervisor
> that scales to that many CPUs anyways, so it's not the biggest
> concern. For the 128CPU case it works (although i might need
> to enlarge vmalloc area a bit on 32bit) 

I don't see much reason why we should put artificial limit on how much
percpu memory could be used.  For lockdep, that much of percpu memory
is actually necessary.  Another layer of indirection surely can lessen
the pressure on the generic percpu implementation but the problem can
be solved by the generic code without too much difficulty.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-01  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-24 13:30 [PATCHSET] percpu: generalize first chunk allocators and improve lpage NUMA support Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86: make pcpu_chunk_addr_search() matching stricter Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 02/10] percpu: drop @unit_size from embed first chunk allocator Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86,percpu: generalize 4k " Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 04/10] percpu: make 4k first chunk allocator map memory Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 05/10] x86,percpu: generalize lpage first chunk allocator Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 06/10] percpu: simplify pcpu_setup_first_chunk() Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 07/10] percpu: reorder a few functions in mm/percpu.c Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 08/10] percpu: drop pcpu_chunk->page[] Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: allow non-linear / sparse cpu -> unit mapping Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 10/10] percpu: teach large page allocator about NUMA Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 13:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-24 23:55 ` [PATCHSET] percpu: generalize first chunk allocators and improve lpage NUMA support Andrew Morton
2009-06-25  0:02   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-25  0:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-25  9:19       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-25 14:18         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-25 19:54           ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-25 20:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-25 20:26               ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-26  0:40                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-26  2:02                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-26  6:54                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-25  2:35   ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-25  9:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-29 23:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-29 23:39     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-30 14:24       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 19:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 19:39         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 20:21           ` Scott Lurndal
2009-06-30 21:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 22:16             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 22:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 22:40                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01  0:48                   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-06-30 22:55                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 22:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 23:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 23:18                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 23:30                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01  6:34                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-30 23:20               ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-30 23:31                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 23:34                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-01  6:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 10:21                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-01 12:23                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 12:53                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-01 13:11                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 17:33                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-01 22:42                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-03 23:14 ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-03 23:14   ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-13 10:12 ` [PATCH 04/10] percpu: make 4k first chunk allocator map memory David Howells
2009-07-15  3:17   ` Tejun Heo

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