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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: arnd@arndb.de, hch@lst.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	tony.luck@intel.com, ralf@linux-mips.org, kyle@mcmartin.ca,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] improve sys_personality for compat architectures
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:04:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B69D6BA.4030704@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100203.091309.52886984.davem@davemloft.net>

On 02/03/2010 09:13 AM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:06:27 +0100
> 
>>> But if the consensus is that we should fix this properly I can
>>> replace the patch with one introducing a compat_sys_personality
>>> which only gets used for compat tasks.
>>
>> Right now, sparc64 and powerpc64 use sys32_personality for both native
>> and compat tasks, x86 never uses it and all others use it only for
>> compat tasks. That seems more sensible if we keep this function at
>> all.
> 
> If it only gets used for compat tasks, you can only switch in
> one direction.  I think it needs to be handled for both compat
> and non-compat tasks, in order to allow for that.

That seems odd... with the wrapper you can ever only switch in one
direction, and if you use it for non-compat tasks you wouldn't be ever
to switch back, period.

> That's why powerpc64 and sparc64 do things the way they do,
> I am pretty sure.

As far as I can tell, the ppc64 and sparc64 implementations would seem
to be trapdoors from which no return is possible.  That's a pretty
defensible position in some ways -- it mimics the 32-bit machine even
down to the personality() syscall -- but it definitely has disadvantages.

The x86 method of simply not bothering doesn't seem to have caused
problems -- our compat (and noncompat) tasks happily return PER_LINUX32
if that is the mode and we don't seem to have had complaints with it.
If userspace ever had an issue with it -- and they might have, at one
point in history libc used to call personality() during startup, which
it doesn't seem to anymore -- they presumably have worked through it.

As such, I'm more than a little reluctant to change the current behavior.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-03 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-01 18:56 [PATCH 4/6] improve sys_personality for compat architectures Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-01 18:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 14:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-02 16:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 17:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-03 17:13       ` David Miller
2010-02-03 20:04         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-02-04  7:38           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-04 16:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-05 19:49               ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-09 12:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-09 12:58                   ` Christoph Hellwig

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