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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Roland McGrath <mcgrathr@google.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>, Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	davem@davemloft.net, mingo@redhat.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, rdunlap@xenotime.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
	eparis@redhat.com, serge.hallyn@canonical.com, djm@mindrot.org,
	scarybeasts@gmail.com, pmoore@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, markus@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 07/11] signal, x86: add SIGSYS info and make it synchronous.
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:06:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F459109.1060205@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=4xhq1sm_ewZ_8Kerf2aN7nGx+DEENse7Lqg5N0wuvqtzUAw@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/22/2012 04:50 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:29 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>> Can we really introduce force-kill semantics for a POSIX-defined signal?
>> Other user space programs might use it for other purposes.
> 
> The semantics are based on how the signal was generated, not what signal
> number it was.  The only thing that depends on the signal number is
> SYNCHRONOUS_MASK, which just determines in which order pending signals are
> dequeued (POSIX says it may be any order).  We only have that so your state
> doesn't get unhelpfully warped to another signal handler entry point
> (including fiddling the stack) before you dump core.
> 
> No use of SIGSYS is specified by POSIX at all, of course, since "system
> call" is an implementation concept below the level POSIX specifies.

I meant whether or not a signal can be blocked/caught and the fact that
the signal exists at all.

Now I guess we could have "blockable" and "unblockable" SIGSYS, but that
would seem to have its own set of issues...

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-23  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-21 17:30 [PATCH v10 01/11] sk_run_filter: add support for custom load_pointer Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 02/11] seccomp: kill the seccomp_t typedef Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 03/11] asm/syscall.h: add syscall_get_arch Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 18:46   ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-21 18:46     ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-21 18:57     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 18:57       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 19:01     ` [PATCH v11 " Will Drewry
2012-02-21 19:01       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 04/11] arch/x86: add syscall_get_arch to syscall.h Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 05/11] seccomp: add system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22  6:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-22  6:32     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-22 19:48     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:48       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22  8:19   ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22  8:19     ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 14:23     ` Ben Hutchings
2012-02-22 19:47       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:47         ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 23:46         ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 23:46           ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 23:51           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-02-22 23:51             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-02-23  0:08             ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-23  1:07             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-23  1:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-22 23:03       ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 19:47     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:47       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:53       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-22 19:53         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-22 20:01         ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 20:01           ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23  0:25       ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 06/11] seccomp: add SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 22:41   ` Kees Cook
2012-02-21 22:41     ` Kees Cook
2012-02-21 22:48     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 07/11] signal, x86: add SIGSYS info and make it synchronous Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22  8:34   ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22  8:34     ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 19:48     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:48       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 23:38       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-02-22 23:38         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-02-22 23:53         ` Kees Cook
2012-02-22 23:53           ` Kees Cook
2012-02-23  0:05           ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23  0:05             ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23  0:08             ` Kees Cook
2012-02-23  0:08               ` Kees Cook
2012-02-23  0:29               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-23  0:29                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-23  0:50                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-23  1:06                   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-02-23  1:06                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-23 17:38                     ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-23 17:38                       ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-23 19:26                       ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23 19:26                         ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23 22:15                         ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-23 22:15                           ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-23 22:33                           ` Markus Gutschke
2012-02-23 22:33                             ` Markus Gutschke
2012-02-23 22:36                             ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23 22:36                               ` Will Drewry
2012-02-27 12:32                             ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-27 12:32                               ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-27 16:21                               ` Will Drewry
2012-02-27 16:21                                 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23 22:34                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Will Drewry
2012-02-23 16:44                 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23 16:44                   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-23  0:11         ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-23  0:11           ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 08/11] seccomp: Add SECCOMP_RET_TRAP Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 09/11] ptrace,seccomp: Add PTRACE_SECCOMP support Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 12:22   ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 12:22     ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-22 19:47     ` Will Drewry
2012-02-22 19:47       ` [kernel-hardening] " Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 10/11] x86: Enable HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30 ` [PATCH v10 11/11] Documentation: prctl/seccomp_filter Will Drewry
2012-02-21 17:30   ` Will Drewry
2012-02-21 23:12   ` Kees Cook
2012-02-21 23:12     ` Kees Cook
2012-02-22  3:41     ` Will Drewry

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