From: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de> To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com> Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>, gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:22:32 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <52454E58.3010305@gmx.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <52440DE0.1030807@nod.at> On 09/26/2013 12:35 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote: > Am 26.09.2013 12:20, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra: >> Richard Weinberger wrote: >>> This patch is based on: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/4/396 >>> >>> Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> >>> --- >>> arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig | 954 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 943 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> 2 files changed, 1897 insertions(+) >>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig >>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig >> >> First, I'm pissed that the upstream tree doesn't build and run out of >> the box months after I submitted a fix in July (and it's September >> now). Fact that you dropped my sane patches aside and decided to write >> a much larger series aside, user-mode Linux in upstream is broken. >> This means that any user who does: >> >> $ ARCH=um make defconfig >> $ ARCH=um make >> >> will end up with a *broken* Linux _today_. Unless the user is living >> in the Stone Age with a 32-bit computer, this is what she will see >> when she attempts to boot up Linux: :-{ Grmpf There are a lot of 32 bit user land linux installation (beside my own, look at the x86 Gentoo world) in the wild - even running on modern 64bit CPUs. The simple reason is that those installations run fine and the performance "boost" of 64bit often isn't worth a new reinstallation. -- the stone-age-Toralf > > Not here. > >> $ file linux >> linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), >> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not >> stripped >> $ ./linux ubd0=busybox-rootfs >> [...] >> Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option >> to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance. > > I don't know that rootfs but it looks like there is no init. > >> CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: swapper Not tainted 3.12.0-rc2-00083-g4b97280 #1 >> 0b869fbc 08272f87 0b869fdc 0820c5cd 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 >> 0b869fe8 0820c126 08252593 0b869ff8 08059317 00000000 00000001 00000000 >> 00000000 0b869f94: [<0805a11c>] show_stack+0x54/0x8c >> 0b869fb4: [<0820e3c8>] dump_stack+0x16/0x1b >> 0b869fc8: [<0820c5cd>] panic+0x67/0x149 >> 0b869fe0: [<0820c126>] kernel_init+0xab/0xaf >> 0b869fec: [<08059317>] new_thread_handler+0x63/0x7c >> 0b869ffc: [<00000000>] 0x0 >> >> >> EIP: 0023:[<f7717430>] CPU: 0 Not tainted ESP: 002b:ffc386dc EFLAGS: 00000296 >> Not tainted >> EAX: 00000000 EBX: 000063ba ECX: 00000013 EDX: 000063ba >> ESI: 000063b6 EDI: 00000002 EBP: ffc38708 DS: 002b ES: 002b >> 0b869f44: [<0806aff4>] show_regs+0xb4/0xbc >> 0b869f70: [<0805b23b>] panic_exit+0x20/0x36 >> 0b869f84: [<0808521b>] notifier_call_chain+0x28/0x4b >> 0b869fac: [<0808526c>] atomic_notifier_call_chain+0x15/0x17 >> 0b869fbc: [<0820c5de>] panic+0x78/0x149 >> 0b869fe0: [<0820c126>] kernel_init+0xab/0xaf >> 0b869fec: [<08059317>] new_thread_handler+0x63/0x7c >> 0b869ffc: [<00000000>] 0x0 >> >> [1] 25526 abort (core dumped) linux ubd0=busybox-rootfs >> % >> >> Rubbish. > > UML core dumps at panic() by design. > >> When I rebase my original patches (exactly 2 small independent >> patches) onto the new upstream, stuff works as usual. If you're not >> convinced, try the um-build branch from >> https://github.com/artagnon/linux for yourself. > >> Are you against accepting good patches and stalling work? What is your >> plan exactly? > > Sure, my great plan is to destroy Linux. I work for Microsoft. ;-) > > Seriously, my plan is to get rid of SUBARCH, that's why I did not push your patches > upstream and I've send the rid of SUBARCH patch series. > It turned out that other archs depend on SUBARCH too therefore some more thinking is needed. > Time passed, merge window closed, $dayjob needed some attention... > > That said, your "arch/um: make it work with defconfig and x86_64" patch is also not perfect. > "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86" will create x86_64 defconfig, which is wrong and breaks existing > setups. > Secondly, what stops you from running "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86_64" to run your x86_64 bit > userspace? > > Thanks, > //richard > -- MfG/Sincerely Toralf Förster pgp finger print: 7B1A 07F4 EC82 0F90 D4C2 8936 872A E508 7DB6 9DA3 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kbuild" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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From: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de> To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com> Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>, gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:22:32 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <52454E58.3010305@gmx.de> (raw) Message-ID: <20130927092232.2aTaxbOEfMdq4eJc0-ko7vVsfSu82Q7TdBqcsBABRjQ@z> (raw) In-Reply-To: <52440DE0.1030807@nod.at> On 09/26/2013 12:35 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote: > Am 26.09.2013 12:20, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra: >> Richard Weinberger wrote: >>> This patch is based on: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/4/396 >>> >>> Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> >>> --- >>> arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig | 954 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 943 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> 2 files changed, 1897 insertions(+) >>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig >>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig >> >> First, I'm pissed that the upstream tree doesn't build and run out of >> the box months after I submitted a fix in July (and it's September >> now). Fact that you dropped my sane patches aside and decided to write >> a much larger series aside, user-mode Linux in upstream is broken. >> This means that any user who does: >> >> $ ARCH=um make defconfig >> $ ARCH=um make >> >> will end up with a *broken* Linux _today_. Unless the user is living >> in the Stone Age with a 32-bit computer, this is what she will see >> when she attempts to boot up Linux: :-{ Grmpf There are a lot of 32 bit user land linux installation (beside my own, look at the x86 Gentoo world) in the wild - even running on modern 64bit CPUs. The simple reason is that those installations run fine and the performance "boost" of 64bit often isn't worth a new reinstallation. -- the stone-age-Toralf > > Not here. > >> $ file linux >> linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), >> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not >> stripped >> $ ./linux ubd0=busybox-rootfs >> [...] >> Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option >> to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance. > > I don't know that rootfs but it looks like there is no init. > >> CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: swapper Not tainted 3.12.0-rc2-00083-g4b97280 #1 >> 0b869fbc 08272f87 0b869fdc 0820c5cd 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 >> 0b869fe8 0820c126 08252593 0b869ff8 08059317 00000000 00000001 00000000 >> 00000000 0b869f94: [<0805a11c>] show_stack+0x54/0x8c >> 0b869fb4: [<0820e3c8>] dump_stack+0x16/0x1b >> 0b869fc8: [<0820c5cd>] panic+0x67/0x149 >> 0b869fe0: [<0820c126>] kernel_init+0xab/0xaf >> 0b869fec: [<08059317>] new_thread_handler+0x63/0x7c >> 0b869ffc: [<00000000>] 0x0 >> >> >> EIP: 0023:[<f7717430>] CPU: 0 Not tainted ESP: 002b:ffc386dc EFLAGS: 00000296 >> Not tainted >> EAX: 00000000 EBX: 000063ba ECX: 00000013 EDX: 000063ba >> ESI: 000063b6 EDI: 00000002 EBP: ffc38708 DS: 002b ES: 002b >> 0b869f44: [<0806aff4>] show_regs+0xb4/0xbc >> 0b869f70: [<0805b23b>] panic_exit+0x20/0x36 >> 0b869f84: [<0808521b>] notifier_call_chain+0x28/0x4b >> 0b869fac: [<0808526c>] atomic_notifier_call_chain+0x15/0x17 >> 0b869fbc: [<0820c5de>] panic+0x78/0x149 >> 0b869fe0: [<0820c126>] kernel_init+0xab/0xaf >> 0b869fec: [<08059317>] new_thread_handler+0x63/0x7c >> 0b869ffc: [<00000000>] 0x0 >> >> [1] 25526 abort (core dumped) linux ubd0=busybox-rootfs >> % >> >> Rubbish. > > UML core dumps at panic() by design. > >> When I rebase my original patches (exactly 2 small independent >> patches) onto the new upstream, stuff works as usual. If you're not >> convinced, try the um-build branch from >> https://github.com/artagnon/linux for yourself. > >> Are you against accepting good patches and stalling work? What is your >> plan exactly? > > Sure, my great plan is to destroy Linux. I work for Microsoft. ;-) > > Seriously, my plan is to get rid of SUBARCH, that's why I did not push your patches > upstream and I've send the rid of SUBARCH patch series. > It turned out that other archs depend on SUBARCH too therefore some more thinking is needed. > Time passed, merge window closed, $dayjob needed some attention... > > That said, your "arch/um: make it work with defconfig and x86_64" patch is also not perfect. > "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86" will create x86_64 defconfig, which is wrong and breaks existing > setups. > Secondly, what stops you from running "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86_64" to run your x86_64 bit > userspace? > > Thanks, > //richard > -- MfG/Sincerely Toralf Förster pgp finger print: 7B1A 07F4 EC82 0F90 D4C2 8936 872A E508 7DB6 9DA3
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-27 9:22 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2013-08-21 8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell 2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell 2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster [this message] 2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster 2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2013-09-26 13:56 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra 2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven 2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger 2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg 2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg 2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney 2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley 2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser 2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser 2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin 2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
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