From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Vrabel Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a real PV environment Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:28:43 +0000 Message-ID: <530F2F7B.40500@citrix.com> References: <1393427668-60228-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hp.com> <1393427668-60228-5-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1393427668-60228-5-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hp.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org To: Waiman Long Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Raghavendra K T , Peter Zijlstra , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Andi Kleen , "H. Peter Anvin" , Michel Lespinasse , Alok Kataria , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , Scott J Norton , xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, "Paul E. McKenney" , Alexander Fyodorov , Rik van Riel , Arnd Bergmann , Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , Daniel J Blueman , Oleg Nesterov , Steven Rostedt , Chris Wright , George Spelvin , Thomas Gleixner List-Id: linux-arch.vger.kernel.org On 26/02/14 15:14, Waiman Long wrote: > Locking is always an issue in a virtualized environment as the virtual > CPU that is waiting on a lock may get scheduled out and hence block > any progress in lock acquisition even when the lock has been freed. > > One solution to this problem is to allow unfair lock in a > para-virtualized environment. In this case, a new lock acquirer can > come and steal the lock if the next-in-line CPU to get the lock is > scheduled out. Unfair lock in a native environment is generally not a > good idea as there is a possibility of lock starvation for a heavily > contended lock. I'm not sure I'm keen on losing the fairness in PV environment. I'm concerned that on an over-committed host, the lock starvation problem will be particularly bad. But I'll have to revist this once a non-broken PV qspinlock implementation exists (or someone explains how the proposed one works). David