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From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>, Chegu Vinod <chegu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a PV guest
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:54:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53218E7A.8090707@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394650498-30118-6-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hp.com>

On 12/03/14 18:54, Waiman Long wrote:
> Locking is always an issue in a virtualized environment as the virtual
> CPU that is waiting on a lock may get scheduled out and hence block
> any progress in lock acquisition even when the lock has been freed.
> 
> One solution to this problem is to allow unfair lock in a
> para-virtualized environment. In this case, a new lock acquirer can
> come and steal the lock if the next-in-line CPU to get the lock is
> scheduled out. Unfair lock in a native environment is generally not a
> good idea as there is a possibility of lock starvation for a heavily
> contended lock.

I do not think this is a good idea -- the problems with unfair locks are
worse in a virtualized guest.  If a waiting VCPU deschedules and has to
be kicked to grab a lock then it is very likely to lose a race with
another running VCPU trying to take a lock (since it takes time for the
VCPU to be rescheduled).

> With the unfair locking activated on bare metal 4-socket Westmere-EX
> box, the execution times (in ms) of a spinlock micro-benchmark were
> as follows:
> 
>   # of    Ticket       Fair	    Unfair
>   tasks    lock     queue lock    queue lock
>   ------  -------   ----------    ----------
>     1       135        135	     137
>     2      1045       1120	     747
>     3      1827       2345     	    1084
>     4      2689       2934	    1438
>     5      3736       3658	    1722
>     6      4942       4434	    2092
>     7      6304       5176          2245
>     8      7736       5955          2388

Are these figures with or without the later PV support patches?

David

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-13 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 18:54 [PATCH v6 00/11] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with PV support Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] qspinlock: A generic 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use queue spinlock Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] qspinlock: More optimized code for smaller NR_CPUS Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] qspinlock: Optimized code path for 2 contending tasks Waiman Long
2014-03-12 19:08   ` Waiman Long
2014-03-13 13:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-17 17:23       ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a PV guest Waiman Long
2014-03-13 10:54   ` David Vrabel [this message]
2014-03-13 13:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:16       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 19:05       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-17 19:05         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-18  8:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-18  8:14           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19  3:15           ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19  3:15             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 10:07             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 16:58               ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 17:08                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 17:08                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:03     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-13 15:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-13 20:05     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14  8:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-14  8:48         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-14  8:48           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 17:44         ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 18:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18  8:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-18  8:16               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19  3:08             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 19:10           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-19  3:11             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 15:25               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair queue spinlock in a KVM guest Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair queue spinlock in a XEN guest Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Rename paravirt_ticketlocks_enabled Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 09/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Add qspinlock para-virtualization support Waiman Long
2014-03-13 11:21   ` David Vrabel
2014-03-13 13:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:57       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:49       ` Waiman Long
2014-03-13 19:49         ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14  9:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-14  9:44           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:05     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 10/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable qspinlock PV support for KVM Waiman Long
2014-03-13 13:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:59     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:13     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14  8:42       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 17:47         ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 17:47           ` Waiman Long
2014-03-18  8:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 15:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-13 20:09     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 11/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable qspinlock PV support for XEN Waiman Long

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