From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a PV guest
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:03:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <532200E5.2050107@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53218E7A.8090707@citrix.com>
On 03/13/2014 06:54 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 12/03/14 18:54, Waiman Long wrote:
>> Locking is always an issue in a virtualized environment as the virtual
>> CPU that is waiting on a lock may get scheduled out and hence block
>> any progress in lock acquisition even when the lock has been freed.
>>
>> One solution to this problem is to allow unfair lock in a
>> para-virtualized environment. In this case, a new lock acquirer can
>> come and steal the lock if the next-in-line CPU to get the lock is
>> scheduled out. Unfair lock in a native environment is generally not a
>> good idea as there is a possibility of lock starvation for a heavily
>> contended lock.
> I do not think this is a good idea -- the problems with unfair locks are
> worse in a virtualized guest. If a waiting VCPU deschedules and has to
> be kicked to grab a lock then it is very likely to lose a race with
> another running VCPU trying to take a lock (since it takes time for the
> VCPU to be rescheduled).
I have seen figure that it will take about 1000 cycles to kick in a CPU.
As long as the critical section isn't that long, there is enough time
for a lock stealer to come in, grab the lock, do whatever it needs to do
and leave without introducing too much latency to the kicked-in CPU.
Anyway there are people who ask for unfair lock. In fact, RHEL6 ship a
virtual guest with unfair lock. So I provide an option for those people
who want unfair lock to enable it in their virtual guest. For those who
don't want it, they can always turn them off when building the kernel.
>> With the unfair locking activated on bare metal 4-socket Westmere-EX
>> box, the execution times (in ms) of a spinlock micro-benchmark were
>> as follows:
>>
>> # of Ticket Fair Unfair
>> tasks lock queue lock queue lock
>> ------ ------- ---------- ----------
>> 1 135 135 137
>> 2 1045 1120 747
>> 3 1827 2345 1084
>> 4 2689 2934 1438
>> 5 3736 3658 1722
>> 6 4942 4434 2092
>> 7 6304 5176 2245
>> 8 7736 5955 2388
> Are these figures with or without the later PV support patches?
This is without the PV patch.
Regards,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-13 19:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-12 18:54 [PATCH v6 00/11] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with PV support Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] qspinlock: A generic 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use queue spinlock Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] qspinlock: More optimized code for smaller NR_CPUS Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] qspinlock: Optimized code path for 2 contending tasks Waiman Long
2014-03-12 19:08 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-13 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-17 17:23 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a PV guest Waiman Long
2014-03-13 10:54 ` David Vrabel
2014-03-13 13:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 19:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-17 19:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-18 8:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-18 8:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 3:15 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 3:15 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 10:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 16:58 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 17:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 17:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:03 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2014-03-13 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-13 20:05 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-14 8:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-14 8:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 17:44 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 18:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-18 8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-18 8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-19 3:08 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 19:10 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-19 3:11 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-19 15:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair queue spinlock in a KVM guest Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair queue spinlock in a XEN guest Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Rename paravirt_ticketlocks_enabled Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 09/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Add qspinlock para-virtualization support Waiman Long
2014-03-13 11:21 ` David Vrabel
2014-03-13 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:49 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-13 19:49 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14 9:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-14 9:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:05 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 10/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable qspinlock PV support for KVM Waiman Long
2014-03-13 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 19:13 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-14 8:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-17 17:47 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-17 17:47 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-18 8:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-13 15:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-13 20:09 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-12 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v6 11/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable qspinlock PV support for XEN Waiman Long
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