From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ley Foon Tan <lftan@altera.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chung-Lin Tang <cltang@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:04:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5373DA43.8070704@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4803676.5b3DxkdLDT@wuerfel>
On 05/14/2014 03:33 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arnd,
>>
>> From your comment above, can I assume we don't need this patchset any more?
>
> I won't require it, but it's not just my decision to make.
>
Linus has pushed extremely hard for it, and it *is* his decision to
make. If you want an authoritative answer I guess we need to wait until
Linus comes back.
> Let's see what Peter Anvin and Thomas Gleixner think about it, as they
> have argued strongly in favor of using 64-bit time_t for new architectures
> in the past.
I think it is downright looney to introduce a new ABI without a 64-bit
time_t at this point.
You are talking about a ktime_t; that is a kernel internal
implementation detail which can be changed later once the appropriate
kernel infrastructure is there, but we should make the change now to get
the external ABIs right, then we can microoptimize the kernel internal
implementation later.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-14 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-13 8:57 [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 01/25] asm-generic: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:15 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 9:32 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:32 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:50 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:50 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 10:17 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 12:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 13:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 13:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 10:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 10:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-14 3:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 10:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 02/25] arc: Add 32 bit time_t and clock_t Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 03/25] arm: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 04/25] avr32: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 20:19 ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-05-14 1:54 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 7:44 ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-05-14 21:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 05/25] blackfin: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 06/25] c6x: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 08/25] frv: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 09/25] hexagon: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 10/25] m32r: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 11/25] m68k: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:04 ` [PATCH 12/25] metag: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:04 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:28 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:28 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 13/25] microblaze: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 14/25] mips: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 15/25] mn10300: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 16/25] openrisc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Jonas Bonn
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Jonas Bonn
2014-05-13 9:41 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:41 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 17/25] parisc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 20:17 ` Helge Deller
2014-05-14 1:57 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-15 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 19/25] s390: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 20/25] score: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 21/25] sh: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 22/25] sparc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 23/25] unicore32: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 25/25] xtense: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:10 ` [PATCH 07/25] cris: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:10 ` [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 9:23 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 15:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-13 15:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 17:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-13 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 18:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 19:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 20:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-14 11:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 12:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 14:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 15:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 15:47 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-15 16:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 21:07 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-16 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-16 23:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16 23:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 21:33 ` John Stultz
2014-05-15 0:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 3:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-15 11:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 11:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-15 17:11 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 17:12 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 17:12 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 18:01 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-15 19:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 20:10 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-15 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 21:05 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 8:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 8:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 14:46 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 17:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 18:12 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 18:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-16 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16 23:47 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-17 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-18 13:46 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-18 16:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-18 18:18 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-14 10:13 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-05-13 18:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 3:36 ` [PATCH 24/25] x86: Add 32 bit time_t and clock_t Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 3:36 ` Ley Foon Tan
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