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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] locking/qrwlock: Reduce reader/writer to reader lock transfer latency
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:30:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559BE27E.6060901@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150707114918.GG23879@arm.com>

On 07/07/2015 07:49 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 12:17:31PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 10:17:11AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>>> Thinking about it, can we kill _QW_WAITING altogether and set (cmpxchg
>>>>> from 0) wmode to _QW_LOCKED in the write_lock slowpath, polling (acquire)
>>>>> rmode until it hits zero?
>>>> No, this is how we make the lock fair so that an incoming streams of
>>>> later readers won't block a writer from getting the lock.
>>> But won't those readers effectively see that the lock is held for write
>>> (because we set wmode to _QW_LOCKED before the existing reader had drained)
>>> and therefore fall down the slow-path and get held up on the spinlock?
>> Yes, that's the entire point. Once there's a writer pending, new readers
>> should queue too.
> Agreed. My point was that we can achieve the same result without
> a separate _QW_WAITING flag afaict.
>
> Will
>

_QW_WAITING and _QW_LOCKED has different semantics and are necessary for 
the proper handshake between readers and writer. We set _QW_WAITING when 
readers own the lock and the writer is waiting for the readers to go 
away. The _QW_WAITING flag will force new readers to go to queuing while 
the writer is waiting. We set _QW_LOCKED when a writer own the lock and 
it can only be set atomically when no reader is present. Without the 
intermediate _QW_WAITING step, a continuous stream of incoming readers 
(which make the reader count never 0) could deny a writer from getting 
the lock indefinitely.

Cheers,
Longman

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-07 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-06 15:43 [PATCH 0/4] locking/qrwlock: Improve qrwlock performance Waiman Long
2015-07-06 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] locking/qrwlock: Better optimization for interrupt context readers Waiman Long
2015-07-06 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] locking/qrwlock: Reduce reader/writer to reader lock transfer latency Waiman Long
2015-07-06 18:23   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-06 19:49     ` Waiman Long
2015-07-06 19:49       ` Waiman Long
2015-07-07  9:17       ` Will Deacon
2015-07-07  9:17         ` Will Deacon
2015-07-07 11:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-07 11:49           ` Will Deacon
2015-07-07 14:30             ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-07-07 17:27               ` Will Deacon
2015-07-07 18:10                 ` Will Deacon
2015-07-07 21:29                   ` Waiman Long
2015-07-08  9:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-08  9:52                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-08 17:19                       ` Will Deacon
2015-07-06 15:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] locking/qrwlock: Reduce writer to writer " Waiman Long
2015-07-06 15:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] locking/qrwlock: Use direct MCS lock/unlock in slowpath Waiman Long
2015-07-07 11:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-07 21:59     ` Waiman Long
2015-07-07 21:59       ` Waiman Long
2015-07-07 22:13       ` Peter Zijlstra

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