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From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
To: Rob Gardner <rob.gardner@oracle.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sparc64: Add support for Application Data Integrity (ADI)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:45:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DDA211.20807@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DD9E94.70201@oracle.com>

On 03/07/2016 08:30 AM, Rob Gardner wrote:
> On 03/07/2016 07:07 AM, Khalid Aziz wrote:
>> On 03/05/2016 09:07 PM, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
>>> Date: Wed,  2 Mar 2016 13:39:37 -0700
>>>
>>>>     In this
>>>>     first implementation I am enabling ADI for hugepages only
>>>>     since these pages are locked in memory and hence avoid the
>>>>     issue of saving and restoring tags.
>>>
>>> This makes the feature almost entire useless.
>>>
>>> Non-hugepages must be in the initial implementation.
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I will get this working for non-hugepages as
>> well. ADI state of each VMA region is already stored in the VMA itself
>> in my first implementation, so I do not lose it when the page is
>> swapped out. The trouble is ADI version tags for each VMA region have
>> to be stored on the swapped out pages since the ADI version tags are
>> flushed when TLB entry for a page is flushed.
>
>
> Khalid,
>
> Are you sure about that last statement? My understanding is that the
> tags are stored in physical memory, and remain there until explicitly
> changed or removed, and so flushing a TLB entry has no effect on the ADI
> tags. If it worked the way you think, then somebody would have to
> potentially reload a long list of ADI tags on every TLB miss.
>
> Rob
>

Hi Rob,

I am fairly sure that is the case. This is what I found from the 
processor guys and others working on ADI. I tested it out by setting up 
ADI on normal malloc'd pages that got swapped out and I got MCD 
exceptions when those pages were swapped back in on access.

I mis-spoke when I said "....ADI version tags are flushed when TLB entry 
for a page is flushed". I meant ADI version tags are flushed when 
mapping for a virtual address is removed from TSB, not when TLB entry is 
flushed. Yes, ADI tags are stored in physical memory and removed when 
mapping is removed.

Thanks,
Khalid

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From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
To: Rob Gardner <rob.gardner@oracle.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	dingel@linux.vnet.ibm.com, bob.picco@oracle.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	mhocko@suse.cz, chris.hyser@oracle.com, richard@nod.at,
	vbabka@suse.cz, koct9i@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	gthelen@google.com, jack@suse.cz, xiexiuqi@huawei.com,
	Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com, luto@kernel.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, bsegall@google.com, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	dave@stgolabs.net, adobriyan@gmail.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sparc64: Add support for Application Data Integrity (ADI)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:45:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DDA211.20807@oracle.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20160307154521.gwkK8AOYvh4o5_EN2iZPOhD80u9g3b9QS8EGxt629L0@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DD9E94.70201@oracle.com>

On 03/07/2016 08:30 AM, Rob Gardner wrote:
> On 03/07/2016 07:07 AM, Khalid Aziz wrote:
>> On 03/05/2016 09:07 PM, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
>>> Date: Wed,  2 Mar 2016 13:39:37 -0700
>>>
>>>>     In this
>>>>     first implementation I am enabling ADI for hugepages only
>>>>     since these pages are locked in memory and hence avoid the
>>>>     issue of saving and restoring tags.
>>>
>>> This makes the feature almost entire useless.
>>>
>>> Non-hugepages must be in the initial implementation.
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I will get this working for non-hugepages as
>> well. ADI state of each VMA region is already stored in the VMA itself
>> in my first implementation, so I do not lose it when the page is
>> swapped out. The trouble is ADI version tags for each VMA region have
>> to be stored on the swapped out pages since the ADI version tags are
>> flushed when TLB entry for a page is flushed.
>
>
> Khalid,
>
> Are you sure about that last statement? My understanding is that the
> tags are stored in physical memory, and remain there until explicitly
> changed or removed, and so flushing a TLB entry has no effect on the ADI
> tags. If it worked the way you think, then somebody would have to
> potentially reload a long list of ADI tags on every TLB miss.
>
> Rob
>

Hi Rob,

I am fairly sure that is the case. This is what I found from the 
processor guys and others working on ADI. I tested it out by setting up 
ADI on normal malloc'd pages that got swapped out and I got MCD 
exceptions when those pages were swapped back in on access.

I mis-spoke when I said "....ADI version tags are flushed when TLB entry 
for a page is flushed". I meant ADI version tags are flushed when 
mapping for a virtual address is removed from TSB, not when TLB entry is 
flushed. Yes, ADI tags are stored in physical memory and removed when 
mapping is removed.

Thanks,
Khalid


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 20:39 [PATCH v2] sparc64: Add support for Application Data Integrity (ADI) Khalid Aziz
2016-03-02 23:08 ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-02 23:08   ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-03  0:25   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-03  0:25     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-03  0:48     ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-03  0:48       ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-03 17:28       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-03 17:28         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-06  4:07 ` David Miller
2016-03-06  4:07   ` David Miller
2016-03-07 15:07   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 15:07     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 15:30     ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 15:30       ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 15:43       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 15:43         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 16:06         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 16:06           ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 17:46           ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 17:46             ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 17:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 17:53               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:12               ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 18:12                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 18:39                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:39                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:53                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrVNM7ZcN7WnmLRMDqGrcYXn9xYWJfjMVwFLdiQS63-TcA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-07 19:22                       ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:22                         ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:46                         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:46                           ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 22:40                           ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 22:40                             ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-08  1:31                   ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-08  1:31                     ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 21:06             ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:06               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 19:57               ` David Miller
2016-03-08 20:16                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 20:16                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 20:27                   ` David Miller
2016-03-08 20:27                     ` David Miller
2016-03-08 20:59                     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 20:59                       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 15:45       ` Khalid Aziz [this message]
2016-03-07 15:45         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 16:45     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 17:51       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 17:51         ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]     ` <56DD9949.1000106-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-07 16:56       ` David Miller
2016-03-07 16:56         ` David Miller
2016-03-07 18:04         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:04           ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]           ` <56DDC2B6.6020009-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-07 18:08             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:08               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:22               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:22                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:49                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:49                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 19:19                   ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:44                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:44                     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:54                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 19:54                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 20:41                       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 20:41                         ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]                         ` <56DDE783.8090009-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-07 20:58                           ` David Miller
2016-03-07 20:58                             ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:02                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 21:02                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 21:09                             ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:09                               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 23:34                             ` James Morris
2016-03-07 23:34                               ` James Morris
2016-03-07 23:48                       ` James Morris
2016-03-07 23:48                         ` James Morris
2016-03-08  9:33                         ` James Morris
2016-03-08  9:33                           ` James Morris
2016-03-07 18:09           ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 18:09             ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 18:24             ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:24               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:16               ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:33                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:33                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:38                   ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:13                     ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 23:13                       ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-08  4:13                       ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:12                   ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 23:12                     ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 23:27                     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 23:27                       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08  0:21                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08  0:21                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08  4:24                   ` David Miller
2016-03-08  4:24                     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:32               ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 23:32                 ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 19:09           ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:09             ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:27             ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:27               ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]               ` <56DDF22D.9090102-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-07 21:34                 ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:34                   ` David Miller
2016-03-07 22:30                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 22:30                     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 17:32 ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 17:35 ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 18:15   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:15     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:06   ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:06     ` David Miller

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