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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-x86_64-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: MPK: removing a pkey
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:49:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6299ccb2-ca6b-b49e-fca0-6baa0d6581a9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0495f01-9821-ec36-56b4-333f109eb761-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>

On 11/22/2017 01:46 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 01:15 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 11/22/2017 09:18 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> And, was the pkey == -1 internal wiring supposed to be exposed to the
>>> pkey_mprotect() signal, or should there have been a pre-check returning
>>> EINVAL in SYSCALL_DEFINE4(pkey_mprotect), before calling
>>> do_mprotect_pkey())? I assume it's too late to change it now anyway (or
>>> not?), so should we also document it?
>>
>> I think the -1 case to the set the default key is useful because it
>> allows you to use a key value of -1 to mean “MPK is not supported”, and
>> still call pkey_mprotect.
> 
> Hmm the current manpage says then when MPK is not supported, pkey has to
> be specified 0. Which is a value that doesn't work when MPK *is*
> supported. So -1 is more universal indeed.

-1 also chosen a different key if key 0 does not support the requested 
protection flags.

>> I plan to document this behavior on the glibc side, and glibc will call
>> mprotect (not pkey_mprotect) for key -1, so that you won't get ENOSYS
>> with kernels which do not support pkey_mprotect.
> 
> Fair enough. What will you do about pkey_alloc() in that case, emulate
> ENOSPC? Oh, the manpage already suggests so. And the return value in
> that case is... -1. Makes sense :)

The manual page is incorrect, the kernel actually returns EINVAL. 
Applications should check for EINVAL (and also ENOSYS) and activate 
fallback code.  Using -1 directly would be a bit reckless IMHO.

Thanks
Florian

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: MPK: removing a pkey
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:49:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6299ccb2-ca6b-b49e-fca0-6baa0d6581a9@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20171122124933.AK8DYFsxnNx3i3kNwVy8Qpme1Cs3j4XhonMw21sOM1s@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0495f01-9821-ec36-56b4-333f109eb761@suse.cz>

On 11/22/2017 01:46 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 01:15 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 11/22/2017 09:18 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> And, was the pkey == -1 internal wiring supposed to be exposed to the
>>> pkey_mprotect() signal, or should there have been a pre-check returning
>>> EINVAL in SYSCALL_DEFINE4(pkey_mprotect), before calling
>>> do_mprotect_pkey())? I assume it's too late to change it now anyway (or
>>> not?), so should we also document it?
>>
>> I think the -1 case to the set the default key is useful because it
>> allows you to use a key value of -1 to mean “MPK is not supported”, and
>> still call pkey_mprotect.
> 
> Hmm the current manpage says then when MPK is not supported, pkey has to
> be specified 0. Which is a value that doesn't work when MPK *is*
> supported. So -1 is more universal indeed.

-1 also chosen a different key if key 0 does not support the requested 
protection flags.

>> I plan to document this behavior on the glibc side, and glibc will call
>> mprotect (not pkey_mprotect) for key -1, so that you won't get ENOSYS
>> with kernels which do not support pkey_mprotect.
> 
> Fair enough. What will you do about pkey_alloc() in that case, emulate
> ENOSPC? Oh, the manpage already suggests so. And the return value in
> that case is... -1. Makes sense :)

The manual page is incorrect, the kernel actually returns EINVAL. 
Applications should check for EINVAL (and also ENOSYS) and activate 
fallback code.  Using -1 directly would be a bit reckless IMHO.

Thanks
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-22 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-05 10:35 MPK: pkey_free and key reuse Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 10:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-08 20:41 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 14:48   ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-09 14:48     ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-09 16:59     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-09 16:59       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 12:48       ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 13:07         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 13:07           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 15:25         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-24 14:55           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24 14:55             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found] ` <0f006ef4-a7b5-c0cf-5f58-d0fd1f911a54-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22  8:18   ` MPK: removing a pkey (was: pkey_free and key reuse) Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22  8:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 12:15     ` MPK: removing a pkey Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:15       ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 12:46       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 12:46         ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]         ` <f0495f01-9821-ec36-56b4-333f109eb761-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 12:49           ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-11-22 12:49             ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 16:10       ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:21         ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-22 16:21           ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]           ` <9ec19ff3-86f6-7cfe-1a07-1ab1c5d9882c-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 16:32             ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-22 16:32               ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23  8:11               ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]                 ` <de93997a-7802-96cf-62e2-e59416e745ca-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 15:00                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 15:00                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 21:42                     ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]                       ` <2d12777f-615a-8101-2156-cf861ec13aa7-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:29                         ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-23 23:29                           ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-24  8:35                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24  8:35                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-24  8:38                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-23 12:38               ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-23 15:09                 ` Dave Hansen

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