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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 22:35:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63ea77f5d14739f8184ea51a4df939a58b4764ab.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5ByYmOZ/x5BbS9o@zn.tnic>

On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 12:00 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 04:35:30PM -0800, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> > b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> > index 11a0e06362e4..aab7fa4104d7 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
> > @@ -307,6 +307,7 @@
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_SGX_EDECCSSA     (11*32+18) /* "" SGX
> > EDECCSSA user leaf function */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_CALL_DEPTH               (11*32+19) /* ""
> > Call depth tracking for RSB stuffing */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_MSR_TSX_CTRL     (11*32+20) /* "" MSR
> > IA32_TSX_CTRL (Intel) implemented */
> > +#define X86_FEATURE_USER_SHSTK               (11*32+21) /* Shadow
> > stack support for user mode applications */
> >   
> >   /* Intel-defined CPU features, CPUID level 0x00000007:1 (EAX),
> > word 12 */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_AVX_VNNI         (12*32+ 4) /* AVX VNNI
> > instructions */
> > @@ -369,6 +370,7 @@
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_OSPKE            (16*32+ 4) /* OS Protection
> > Keys Enable */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_WAITPKG          (16*32+ 5) /*
> > UMONITOR/UMWAIT/TPAUSE Instructions */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_AVX512_VBMI2     (16*32+ 6) /* Additional
> > AVX512 Vector Bit Manipulation Instructions */
> > +#define X86_FEATURE_SHSTK            (16*32+ 7) /* Shadow Stack */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_GFNI             (16*32+ 8) /* Galois Field
> > New Instructions */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_VAES             (16*32+ 9) /* Vector AES */
> >   #define X86_FEATURE_VPCLMULQDQ               (16*32+10) /* Carry-
> > Less Multiplication Double Quadword */
> 
> What is the end goal here?
> 
> To have X86_FEATURE_KERNEL_SHSTK or so someday too?
> 
> If so, then the hardware bit X86_FEATURE_SHSTK should be hidden in
> /proc/cpuinfo, i.e.,
> 
> #define X86_FEATURE_SHSTK            (16*32+ 7) /* "" Shadow Stack
> hardware support */
> 
> note the "", otherwise you'll have people go:
> 
> "hey, I have "shstk" in /proc/cpuinfo on my machine. Why doesn't it
> do
> anything?"
> 
> Or am I misreading where this is headed?

Yes, the suggestion was to have one for kernel and one for user. But I
was also thinking about how KVM could hypothetically support shadow
stack in guests in the non !CONFIG_X86_USER_SHADOW_STACK case (it only
needs CET_U xsave support). So that configuration wouldn't expose
user_shstk and since KVM's guest feature support is retrieved
programmatically, it could be nice to have some hint for KVM users that
they could try. Maybe it's simpler to just tie KVM and host support
together though. I'll remove "shstk".


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-07 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-03  0:35 [PATCH v4 00/39] Shadow stacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET shadow stack description Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:20   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  8:58   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-12-05 21:20     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/39] x86/shstk: Add Kconfig option for Shadow Stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:20   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:22   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-07 11:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-07 22:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2022-12-08 11:10       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 04/39] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:23   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-07 12:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-07 18:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 05/39] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-20 11:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21  0:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 06/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:25   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-20 12:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21  0:03     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-21 10:31       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 07/39] x86: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:28   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-20 16:19   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21  0:37     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-21 10:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21 21:42         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-04 12:50           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-20 21:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21  0:38     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 08/39] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:29   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-20 19:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 09/39] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-20 21:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-21  0:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 11/39] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-27 11:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-27 23:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-04 13:25       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-05  1:06         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 12/39] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:32   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-27 13:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-27 22:26     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-04 13:28       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 13/39] x86/mm: Start actually marking _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:33   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 14/39] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 15/39] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:34   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 16/39] x86/mm: Check Shadow Stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-04 14:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-05  1:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 17/39] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:34   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 18/39] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:37   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 19/39] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 20/39] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:38   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 21/39] mm/mprotect: Exclude shadow stack from preserve_write Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:38   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 22/39] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 23/39] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:39   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 24/39] mm: Warn on shadow stack memory in wrong vma Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:40   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 25/39] x86: Introduce userspace API for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:42   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 26/39] x86/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:43   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 27/39] x86/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:44   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 28/39] x86/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:45   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 29/39] x86/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 30/39] x86/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:51   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-05 22:19     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 31/39] x86/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:52   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:35 ` [PATCH v4 32/39] x86: Expose thread features in /proc/$PID/status Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:52   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 33/39] x86: Prevent 32 bit operations for 64 bit shstk tasks Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03 22:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-12-04 20:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-15  0:25       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 34/39] x86/shstk: Wire in shadow stack interface Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 35/39] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 36/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 37/39] x86: Add PTRACE interface for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:55   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-09 17:04   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-12-09 17:08     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 38/39] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:56   ` Kees Cook
2022-12-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 39/39] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_STATUS Rick Edgecombe
2022-12-03  2:57   ` Kees Cook

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