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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: jonas@southpole.se, stefan.kristiansson@saunalahti.fi,
	shorne@gmail.com, mingo@redhat.com, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	jszhang@kernel.org, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	openrisc@lists.librecores.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] asm-generic: qspinlock: Indicate the use of mixed-size atomics
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:46:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67ba2190-dd72-4ad0-32c2-de43418b73a2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220316232600.20419-2-palmer@rivosinc.com>

On 3/16/22 19:25, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>
> The qspinlock implementation depends on having well behaved mixed-size
> atomics.  This is true on the more widely-used platforms, but these
> requirements are somewhat subtle and may not be satisfied by all the
> platforms that qspinlock is used on.
>
> Document these requirements, so ports that use qspinlock can more easily
> determine if they meet these requirements.
>
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>
> ---
>
> I have specifically not included Peter's SOB on this, as he sent his
> original patch
> <https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YHbBBuVFNnI4kjj3@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/>
> without one.
> ---
>   include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 30 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> index d74b13825501..a7a1296b0b4d 100644
> --- a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> +++ b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> @@ -2,6 +2,36 @@
>   /*
>    * Queued spinlock
>    *
> + * A 'generic' spinlock implementation that is based on MCS locks. An
> + * architecture that's looking for a 'generic' spinlock, please first consider
> + * ticket-lock.h and only come looking here when you've considered all the
> + * constraints below and can show your hardware does actually perform better
> + * with qspinlock.
> + *
> + *
> + * It relies on atomic_*_release()/atomic_*_acquire() to be RCsc (or no weaker
> + * than RCtso if you're power), where regular code only expects atomic_t to be
> + * RCpc.
> + *
> + * It relies on a far greater (compared to ticket-lock.h) set of atomic
> + * operations to behave well together, please audit them carefully to ensure
> + * they all have forward progress. Many atomic operations may default to
> + * cmpxchg() loops which will not have good forward progress properties on
> + * LL/SC architectures.
> + *
> + * One notable example is atomic_fetch_or_acquire(), which x86 cannot (cheaply)
> + * do. Carefully read the patches that introduced queued_fetch_set_pending_acquire().
> + *
> + * It also heavily relies on mixed size atomic operations, in specific it
> + * requires architectures to have xchg16; something which many LL/SC
> + * architectures need to implement as a 32bit and+or in order to satisfy the
> + * forward progress guarantees mentioned above.
> + *
> + * Further reading on mixed size atomics that might be relevant:
> + *
> + *   http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/popl17/mixed-size.pdf
> + *
> + *
>    * (C) Copyright 2013-2015 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
>    * (C) Copyright 2015 Hewlett-Packard Enterprise Development LP
>    *
Acked-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>

Note that it references ticket-lock.h. Perhaps we should reverse the 
order of patches 1 & 2.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-17 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-16 23:25 [PATCH 0/5] Generic Ticket Spinlocks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-16 23:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] asm-generic: qspinlock: Indicate the use of mixed-size atomics Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-17 17:46   ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-03-16 23:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] asm-generic: ticket-lock: New generic ticket-based spinlock Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-17  9:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-17 13:57   ` Boqun Feng
2022-03-17 15:03     ` Waiman Long
2022-03-17 15:34       ` Boqun Feng
2022-03-17 18:04   ` Waiman Long
2022-03-16 23:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] openrisc: Move to ticket-spinlock Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-17  9:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-21 21:29   ` Stafford Horne
2022-03-22  3:29     ` Guo Ren
2022-03-22  4:10       ` Stafford Horne
2022-03-22  6:45         ` Guo Ren
2022-03-16 23:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] RISC-V: Move to ticket-spinlocks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-16 23:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] RISC-V: Move to queued RW locks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-17  9:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-17  9:16 ` [PATCH 0/5] Generic Ticket Spinlocks Arnd Bergmann
2022-03-17 11:09 ` Heiko Stübner
2022-03-18  7:24   ` Guo Ren
2022-03-18  8:40 ` Guo Ren
2022-03-22 18:18 ` Conor Dooley
2022-03-22 20:02   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-22 20:19     ` Conor Dooley

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