From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Cc: guoren@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
longman@redhat.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, jonas@southpole.se,
stefan.kristiansson@saunalahti.fi, shorne@gmail.com,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openrisc@lists.librecores.org,
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Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/7] asm-generic: qspinlock: Indicate the use of mixed-size atomics
Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 14:02:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7375410.EvYhyI6sBW@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220430153626.30660-3-palmer@rivosinc.com>
Am Samstag, 30. April 2022, 17:36:21 CEST schrieb Palmer Dabbelt:
> From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>
> The qspinlock implementation depends on having well behaved mixed-size
> atomics. This is true on the more widely-used platforms, but these
> requirements are somewhat subtle and may not be satisfied by all the
> platforms that qspinlock is used on.
>
> Document these requirements, so ports that use qspinlock can more easily
> determine if they meet these requirements.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> Acked-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> ---
> include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> index d74b13825501..95be3f3c28b5 100644
> --- a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> +++ b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> @@ -2,6 +2,37 @@
> /*
> * Queued spinlock
> *
> + * A 'generic' spinlock implementation that is based on MCS locks. An
_For_ an architecture that's ... ?
> + * architecture that's looking for a 'generic' spinlock, please first consider
> + * ticket-lock.h and only come looking here when you've considered all the
> + * constraints below and can show your hardware does actually perform better
> + * with qspinlock.
> + *
> + *
double empty line is probably not necessary
> + * It relies on atomic_*_release()/atomic_*_acquire() to be RCsc (or no weaker
> + * than RCtso if you're power), where regular code only expects atomic_t to be
> + * RCpc.
> + *
> + * It relies on a far greater (compared to asm-generic/spinlock.h) set of
> + * atomic operations to behave well together, please audit them carefully to
> + * ensure they all have forward progress. Many atomic operations may default to
> + * cmpxchg() loops which will not have good forward progress properties on
> + * LL/SC architectures.
> + *
> + * One notable example is atomic_fetch_or_acquire(), which x86 cannot (cheaply)
> + * do. Carefully read the patches that introduced
> + * queued_fetch_set_pending_acquire().
> + *
> + * It also heavily relies on mixed size atomic operations, in specific it
> + * requires architectures to have xchg16; something which many LL/SC
> + * architectures need to implement as a 32bit and+or in order to satisfy the
> + * forward progress guarantees mentioned above.
> + *
> + * Further reading on mixed size atomics that might be relevant:
> + *
> + * http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/popl17/mixed-size.pdf
> + *
> + *
> * (C) Copyright 2013-2015 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
> * (C) Copyright 2015 Hewlett-Packard Enterprise Development LP
> *
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-04 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-30 15:36 [PATCH v4 0/7] Generic Ticket Spinlocks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] asm-generic: ticket-lock: New generic ticket-based spinlock Palmer Dabbelt
2022-05-04 11:57 ` Heiko Stübner
2022-05-05 3:30 ` Guo Ren
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] asm-generic: qspinlock: Indicate the use of mixed-size atomics Palmer Dabbelt
2022-05-04 12:02 ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2022-05-05 11:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] asm-generic: qrwlock: Document the spinlock fairness requirements Palmer Dabbelt
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] openrisc: Move to ticket-spinlock Palmer Dabbelt
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] RISC-V: Move to generic spinlocks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-05-04 12:02 ` Heiko Stübner
2022-05-05 3:21 ` Guo Ren
2022-05-05 13:00 ` Conor.Dooley
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] RISC-V: Move to queued RW locks Palmer Dabbelt
2022-05-04 12:03 ` Heiko Stübner
2022-05-05 3:20 ` Guo Ren
2022-05-05 13:00 ` Conor.Dooley
2022-04-30 15:36 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] csky: Move to generic ticket-spinlock Palmer Dabbelt
2022-05-05 11:09 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Generic Ticket Spinlocks Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-06 14:34 ` Palmer Dabbelt
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