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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: hev <r@hev.cc>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Rui Wang <wangrui@loongson.cn>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] locking/atomic: Implement atomic_fetch_and_or
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:40:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7574da60-fb71-dad2-b099-a815a0a18c22@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHirt9hNxsHPVWPa+RpUC6av0tcHPESb4Pr20ovAixwNEh4hrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/29/21 6:18 AM, hev wrote:
> Hi, Will,
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:39 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 07:48:22PM +0800, Rui Wang wrote:
>>> From: wangrui <wangrui@loongson.cn>
>>>
>>> This patch introduce a new atomic primitive 'and_or', It may be have three
>>> types of implemeations:
>>>
>>>   * The generic implementation is based on arch_cmpxchg.
>>>   * The hardware supports atomic 'and_or' of single instruction.
>> Do any architectures actually support this instruction?
> No, I'm not sure now.
>
>> On arm64, we can clear arbitrary bits and we can set arbitrary bits, but we
>> can't combine the two in a fashion which provides atomicity and
>> forward-progress guarantees.
>>
>> Please can you explain how this new primitive will be used, in case there's
>> an alternative way of doing it which maps better to what CPUs can actually
>> do?
> I think we can easily exchange arbitrary bits of a machine word with atomic
> andnot_or/and_or. Otherwise, we can only use xchg8/16 to do it. It depends on
> hardware support, and the key point is that the bits to be exchanged
> must be in the
> same sub-word. qspinlock adjusted memory layout for this reason, and waste some
> bits(_Q_PENDING_BITS == 8).

It is not actually a waste of bits. With _Q_PENDING_BITS==8, more 
optimized code can be used for pending bit processing. It is only in the 
rare case that NR_CPUS >= 16k - 1 that we have to fall back to 
_Q_PENDING_BITS==1. In fact, that should be the only condition that will 
make _Q_PENDING_BITS=1.

Cheers,
Longman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-30 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-28 11:48 [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] locking/atomic: Implement atomic_fetch_and_or Rui Wang
2021-07-28 12:14 ` Boqun Feng
2021-07-28 14:12   ` Hev
2021-07-28 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-28 13:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-28 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-28 13:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-29  1:58       ` hev
2021-07-29  8:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-29  8:37           ` hev
2021-07-29  9:39 ` Will Deacon
2021-07-29 10:18   ` hev
2021-07-29 12:52     ` Will Deacon
2021-07-30 18:40     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2021-07-31  1:46       ` hev
2021-08-05 13:20       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-09 11:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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