From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, arnd@arndb.de,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
mark.rutland@arm.com, harisokn@amazon.com, cl@gentwo.org,
memxor@gmail.com, zhenglifeng1@huawei.com,
joao.m.martins@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] barrier: Introduce smp_cond_load_*_timeout()
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 13:28:06 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877c55249l.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250203214911.898276-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Hi folks,
Gentle ping for reviews.
Next versions of users of this series:
Resilient Queued Spin Lock:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250303152305.3195648-1-memxor@gmail.com/
poll_idle():
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250218213337.377987-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
Thanks
Ankur
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> This series adds waited variants of the smp_cond_load() primitives:
> smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait(), and smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait().
>
> There are two known users for these interfaces:
>
> - poll_idle() [1]
> - resilient queued spinlocks [2]
>
> For both of these cases we want to wait on a condition but also want
> to terminate the wait at some point.
>
> Now, in theory, that can be worked around by making the time check a
> part of the conditional expression provided to smp_cond_load_*():
>
> smp_cond_load_relaxed(&cvar, !VAL || time_check());
>
> That approach, however, runs into two problems:
>
> - smp_cond_load_*() only allow waiting on a condition: this might
> be okay when we are synchronously spin-waiting on the condition,
> but not on architectures where are actually waiting for a store
> to a cacheline.
>
> - this semantic problem becomes a real problem on arm64 if the
> event-stream is disabled. That means that there will be no
> asynchronous event (the event-stream) that periodically wakes
> the waiter, which might lead to an interminable wait if VAL is
> never written to.
>
> This series extends the smp_cond_load_*() interfaces by adding two
> arguments: a time-check expression and its associated time limit.
> This is sufficient to allow for both a synchronously waited
> implementation (like the generic cpu_relax() based loop), or one
> where the CPU waits for a store to a cacheline with an out-of-band
> timer.
>
> Any comments appreciated!
>
>
> Ankur
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241107190818.522639-3-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250107140004.2732830-9-memxor@gmail.com/
>
> --
> Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
> Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
>
> Ankur Arora (4):
> asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait()
> asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
> arm64: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait()
> arm64: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
>
> arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h | 74 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> include/asm-generic/barrier.h | 71 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 2 files changed, 145 insertions(+)
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-03 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-03 21:49 [PATCH 0/4] barrier: Introduce smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-02-03 21:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-03-04 19:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-03-06 7:53 ` Ankur Arora
2025-03-11 8:48 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-03-12 6:34 ` Ankur Arora
2025-03-09 3:26 ` Ankur Arora
2025-02-03 21:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-02-03 21:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-03-04 19:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-03-06 7:58 ` Ankur Arora
2025-02-03 21:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-02-14 22:42 ` Okanovic, Haris
2025-02-18 21:44 ` Ankur Arora
2025-02-06 10:57 ` [PATCH 0/4] barrier: Introduce smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-02-18 21:48 ` Ankur Arora
2025-03-03 21:28 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
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