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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/20] asm-generic/mmiowb: Add generic implementation of mmiowb() tracking
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 21:24:12 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ef7n7x9v.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1551575210.6lwpiqtg5k.astroid@bobo.none>

Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> writes:
> Will Deacon's on March 2, 2019 12:03 am:
>> In preparation for removing all explicit mmiowb() calls from driver
>> code, implement a tracking system in asm-generic based loosely on the
>> PowerPC implementation. This allows architectures with a non-empty
>> mmiowb() definition to have the barrier automatically inserted in
>> spin_unlock() following a critical section containing an I/O write.
>
> Is there a reason to call this "mmiowb"? We already have wmb that
> orders cacheable stores vs mmio stores don't we?
>
> Yes ia64 "sn2" is broken in that case, but that can be fixed (if
> anyone really cares about the platform any more). Maybe that's
> orthogonal to what you're doing here, I just don't like seeing
> "mmiowb" spread.
>
> This series works for spin locks, but you would want a driver to
> be able to use wmb() to order locks vs mmio when using a bit lock
> or a mutex or whatever else.

Without wading into the rest of the discussion, this does raise an
interesting point, ie. what about eg. rwlock's?

They're basically equivalent to spinlocks, and so could reasonably be
expected to have the same behaviour.

But we don't check the io_sync flag in arch_read/write_unlock() etc. and
both of those use lwsync.

Seems like we just forgot they existed? Commit f007cacffc88 ("[POWERPC]
Fix MMIO ops to provide expected barrier behaviour") that added the
io_sync stuff doesn't mention them at all.

Am I missing anything? AFAICS read/write locks were never built on top
of spin locks, so seems like we're just hoping drivers using rwlock do
the right barriers?

cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-04 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01 14:03 [PATCH 00/20] Remove Mysterious Macro Intended to Obscure Weird Behaviours (mmiowb()) Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 01/20] asm-generic/mmiowb: Add generic implementation of mmiowb() tracking Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-03  1:43   ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03  1:43     ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03  2:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-03  2:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-03  3:34       ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03  3:34         ` Nicholas Piggin
     [not found]         ` <CAHk-=whVN58nWh29jvXx+X-Yx9dCC6BeAZOtKak+d01y_UVg=A@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-03 10:05           ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03 10:05             ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03 18:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-03 18:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05  0:21               ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-05  0:21                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-05  0:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05  0:33                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-03  9:26     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-03  9:26       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-03 10:07       ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03 10:07         ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-04  1:01         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-04  1:01           ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-05  0:21           ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-05  0:21             ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-04 10:24     ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2019-03-04 10:24       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-05  0:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05  0:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07  0:47         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-07  0:47           ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-07  1:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07  1:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07  9:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07  9:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 02/20] arch: Use asm-generic header for asm/mmiowb.h Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 03/20] mmiowb: Hook up mmiowb helpers to spinlocks and generic I/O accessors Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-03  1:47   ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-03  1:47     ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 04/20] ARM/io: Remove useless definition of mmiowb() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/20] arm64/io: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 06/20] x86/io: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 07/20] nds32/io: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 08/20] m68k/io: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 09/20] sh/mmiowb: Add unconditional mmiowb() to arch_spin_unlock() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 10/20] mips/mmiowb: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 22:16   ` Paul Burton
2019-03-01 22:16     ` Paul Burton
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 11/20] ia64/mmiowb: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 12/20] powerpc/mmiowb: Hook up mmwiob() implementation to asm-generic code Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-02 12:46   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-02 12:46     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 13/20] riscv/mmiowb: " Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 21:13   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-03-01 21:13     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 14/20] Documentation: Kill all references to mmiowb() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 15/20] drivers: Remove useless trailing comments from mmiowb() invocations Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 16/20] drivers: Remove explicit invocations of mmiowb() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 17/20] scsi/qla1280: Remove stale comment about mmiowb() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 18/20] i40iw: Redefine i40iw_mmiowb() to do nothing Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 19/20] net/ethernet/silan/sc92031: Remove stale comment about mmiowb() Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03 ` [PATCH 20/20] arch: Remove dummy mmiowb() definitions from arch code Will Deacon
2019-03-01 14:03   ` Will Deacon
2019-03-01 16:41 ` [PATCH 00/20] Remove Mysterious Macro Intended to Obscure Weird Behaviours (mmiowb()) Linus Torvalds
2019-03-01 16:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-02 12:56   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-02 12:56     ` Michael Ellerman

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