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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v2
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:41:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k5aan2yy.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081208113318.GA14723@elte.hu> (Ingo Molnar's message of "Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:33:18 +0100")

Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:

> This means that the only correct technical/mathematical argument is to 
> talk about "levels of noise" and how they compare and correlate - and 
> i've seen no actual measurements or estimations pro or contra. Group 
> readout of counters can reduce noise for sure, but it is wrong for you to 
> try to turn this into some sort of all-or-nothing property. Other sources 
> of noise tend to be of much higher of magnitude.

Ingo, could you please describe how PEBS and IBS fit into your model?

Thanks.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-08 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-08  1:22 [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v2 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-08  1:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-08 11:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07  7:43     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-01-09  1:07       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-12-08  3:24 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-08 11:33   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-08 12:02     ` David Miller
2008-12-08 14:41     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-12-08 22:03     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-09 13:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-09 23:00         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-08  8:32 ` Corey J Ashford
2008-12-09  6:37 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-09 11:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-09 11:11     ` David Miller
2008-12-09 11:22       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-09 11:29         ` David Miller
2008-12-09 12:14           ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2008-12-09 13:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-09 16:39     ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-09 19:02       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-09 19:51         ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-09 16:46     ` Will Newton
2008-12-09 17:35       ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-09 21:16     ` stephane eranian
2008-12-09 21:16       ` stephane eranian
2008-12-09 22:19     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-09 22:40       ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-10  4:44         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-10  5:03           ` stephane eranian
2008-12-10  5:03             ` stephane eranian
2008-12-10 10:26           ` Andi Kleen

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