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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zilstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:48:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wm4guqnb.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027173037.Cj4b_alm@linutronix.de>

On Mon, Oct 27 2025 at 18:30, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:

> |       slice_test-2903    [001] d..2.  2313.285484: hrtimer_cancel: hrtimer=0000000030a688cc
> extension granted, timer started and revoked and set need resched.
>
> |       slice_test-2903    [001] dN.2.  2313.285487: sched_stat_runtime: comm=slice_test pid=2903 runtime=36886 [ns]
> This is coming from schedule() already. It took me a while since I was
> hunting a missing clear of need-resched.
>
> |       slice_test-2903    [001] d..2.  2313.285489: sched_switch: prev_comm=slice_test prev_pid=2903 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R+ ==> next_comm=ksoftirqd/1 next_pid=32 next_prio=120
> |      ksoftirqd/1-32      [001] ..s.1  2313.285490: softirq_entry: vec=7 [action=SCHED]
> |      ksoftirqd/1-32      [001] ..s.1  2313.285501: softirq_exit: vec=7 [action=SCHED]
> |      ksoftirqd/1-32      [001] d..2.  2313.285502: sched_stat_runtime: comm=ksoftirqd/1 pid=32 runtime=16438 [ns]
> |      ksoftirqd/1-32      [001] d..2.  2313.285503: sched_switch: prev_comm=ksoftirqd/1 prev_pid=32 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> next_comm=slice_test next_pid=2904 next_prio=120
> |       slice_test-2904    [001] .....  2313.285507: sys_enter: NR 230 (1, 0, 7f4692c7baa0, 0, 0, 0)
> |       slice_test-2904    [001] .....  2313.285507: hrtimer_setup: hrtimer=00000000f2d53899 clockid=CLOCK_MONOTONIC mode=REL
> |       slice_test-2904    [001] d..1.  2313.285507: hrtimer_start: hrtimer=00000000f2d53899 function=hrtimer_wakeup expires=2313208168792 softexpires=2313208118792 mode=REL
> |       slice_test-2904    [001] d..2.  2313.285508: sched_stat_runtime: comm=slice_test pid=2904 runtime=6149 [ns]
> |       slice_test-2904    [001] d..2.  2313.285510: sched_switch: prev_comm=slice_test prev_pid=2904 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> next_comm=slice_test next_pid=2903 next_prio=120
> |       slice_test-2903    [001] .....  2313.285510: sys_enter: NR 470 (7fffc04f1ff0, c350, 11a0e0, 0, 7f4692e99000, 0)
>
> slice_test-2903 enters _now_ rseq_slice_yield() so it must have been in
> userland during the suppressed wake up at 2313.285457.
> But a few iterations later it turns at out this trace event is recorded
> _after_ the rseq magic happens at sys_enter time. We entered
> rseq_slice_yield() a few cycles after the extension was granted. Buh.
> So it seems to work as intended but it is not obvious tell from tracing
> why it does not work.

Tracing of the syscall happens _after_ syscall_trace_enter() invoked
rseq_syscall_enter_work() which canceled the timer and set
NEED_RESCHED. That immediately rescheduled _after_ the preempt enable:

  syscall()
    do_syscall_64()
      syscall_enter_from_user_mode() {
        syscall_enter_from_user_mode_work()
          syscall_trace_enter()
            rseq_syscall_enter_work()
              preempt_disable()
              hrtimer_try_to_cancel()
                remove_hrtimer()                <- tracepoint
              set_need_resched()
              preempt_enable()
                schedule()
           ...
           trace_sys_enter()                    <- tracepoint

Even if it would not reschedule immediately the ordering would be
reverse.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-22 12:57 [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 01/12] sched: Provide and use set_need_resched_current() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27  8:59   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 11:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 02/12] rseq: Add fields and constants for time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 17:28   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 03/12] rseq: Provide static branch for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27  9:29   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 04/12] rseq: Add statistics " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 05/12] rseq: Add prctl() to enable " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27  9:40   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 06/12] rseq: Implement sys_rseq_slice_yield() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 07/12] rseq: Implement syscall entry work for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 08/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension enforcement timer Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 11:38   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 16:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28  8:33       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28  8:51         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28  9:00           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28  9:22             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 10:22               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 09/12] rseq: Reset slice extension when scheduled Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 10/12] rseq: Implement rseq_grant_slice_extension() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 11/12] entry: Hook up rseq time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 12/12] selftests/rseq: Implement time slice extension test Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 17:30 ` [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 18:48   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-10-28  8:53     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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