From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zilstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:48:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wm4guqnb.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027173037.Cj4b_alm@linutronix.de>
On Mon, Oct 27 2025 at 18:30, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> | slice_test-2903 [001] d..2. 2313.285484: hrtimer_cancel: hrtimer=0000000030a688cc
> extension granted, timer started and revoked and set need resched.
>
> | slice_test-2903 [001] dN.2. 2313.285487: sched_stat_runtime: comm=slice_test pid=2903 runtime=36886 [ns]
> This is coming from schedule() already. It took me a while since I was
> hunting a missing clear of need-resched.
>
> | slice_test-2903 [001] d..2. 2313.285489: sched_switch: prev_comm=slice_test prev_pid=2903 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R+ ==> next_comm=ksoftirqd/1 next_pid=32 next_prio=120
> | ksoftirqd/1-32 [001] ..s.1 2313.285490: softirq_entry: vec=7 [action=SCHED]
> | ksoftirqd/1-32 [001] ..s.1 2313.285501: softirq_exit: vec=7 [action=SCHED]
> | ksoftirqd/1-32 [001] d..2. 2313.285502: sched_stat_runtime: comm=ksoftirqd/1 pid=32 runtime=16438 [ns]
> | ksoftirqd/1-32 [001] d..2. 2313.285503: sched_switch: prev_comm=ksoftirqd/1 prev_pid=32 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> next_comm=slice_test next_pid=2904 next_prio=120
> | slice_test-2904 [001] ..... 2313.285507: sys_enter: NR 230 (1, 0, 7f4692c7baa0, 0, 0, 0)
> | slice_test-2904 [001] ..... 2313.285507: hrtimer_setup: hrtimer=00000000f2d53899 clockid=CLOCK_MONOTONIC mode=REL
> | slice_test-2904 [001] d..1. 2313.285507: hrtimer_start: hrtimer=00000000f2d53899 function=hrtimer_wakeup expires=2313208168792 softexpires=2313208118792 mode=REL
> | slice_test-2904 [001] d..2. 2313.285508: sched_stat_runtime: comm=slice_test pid=2904 runtime=6149 [ns]
> | slice_test-2904 [001] d..2. 2313.285510: sched_switch: prev_comm=slice_test prev_pid=2904 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> next_comm=slice_test next_pid=2903 next_prio=120
> | slice_test-2903 [001] ..... 2313.285510: sys_enter: NR 470 (7fffc04f1ff0, c350, 11a0e0, 0, 7f4692e99000, 0)
>
> slice_test-2903 enters _now_ rseq_slice_yield() so it must have been in
> userland during the suppressed wake up at 2313.285457.
> But a few iterations later it turns at out this trace event is recorded
> _after_ the rseq magic happens at sys_enter time. We entered
> rseq_slice_yield() a few cycles after the extension was granted. Buh.
> So it seems to work as intended but it is not obvious tell from tracing
> why it does not work.
Tracing of the syscall happens _after_ syscall_trace_enter() invoked
rseq_syscall_enter_work() which canceled the timer and set
NEED_RESCHED. That immediately rescheduled _after_ the preempt enable:
syscall()
do_syscall_64()
syscall_enter_from_user_mode() {
syscall_enter_from_user_mode_work()
syscall_trace_enter()
rseq_syscall_enter_work()
preempt_disable()
hrtimer_try_to_cancel()
remove_hrtimer() <- tracepoint
set_need_resched()
preempt_enable()
schedule()
...
trace_sys_enter() <- tracepoint
Even if it would not reschedule immediately the ordering would be
reverse.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-27 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-22 12:57 [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 01/12] sched: Provide and use set_need_resched_current() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 8:59 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 11:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 02/12] rseq: Add fields and constants for time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 17:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 03/12] rseq: Provide static branch for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 9:29 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 04/12] rseq: Add statistics " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 05/12] rseq: Add prctl() to enable " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 9:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 06/12] rseq: Implement sys_rseq_slice_yield() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 07/12] rseq: Implement syscall entry work for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 08/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension enforcement timer Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 11:38 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 16:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 8:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 8:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 9:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 9:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 10:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 09/12] rseq: Reset slice extension when scheduled Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 10/12] rseq: Implement rseq_grant_slice_extension() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 11/12] entry: Hook up rseq time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 12/12] selftests/rseq: Implement time slice extension test Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 17:30 ` [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 18:48 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-10-28 8:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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