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From: "Aneesh Kumar K. V" <aneesh.kumar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Jonathan Nieder
	<jrnieder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org,
	hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:14:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkp21d1o.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103101125150.4190-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:31:30 -0800 (PST), Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> It is frequently useful to sync a single file system, instead of all
> mounted file systems via sync(2):
> 
>  - On machines with many mounts, it is not at all uncommon for some of
>    them to hang (e.g. unresponsive NFS server).  sync(2) will get stuck on
>    those and may never get to the one you do care about (e.g., /).
>  - Some applications write lots of data to the file system and then
>    want to make sure it is flushed to disk.  Calling fsync(2) on each
>    file introduces unnecessary ordering constraints that result in a large
>    amount of sub-optimal writeback/flush/commit behavior by the file
>    system.
> 
> There are currently two ways (that I know of) to sync a single super_block:
> 
>  - BLKFLSBUF ioctl on the block device: That also invalidates the bdev
>    mapping, which isn't usually desirable, and doesn't work for non-block
>    file systems.
>  - 'mount -o remount,rw' will call sync_filesystem as an artifact of the
>    current implemention.  Relying on this little-known side effect for
>    something like data safety sounds foolish.
> 
> Both of these approaches require root privileges, which some applications
> do not have (nor should they need?) given that sync(2) is an unprivileged
> operation.
> 
> This patch introduces a new system call syncfs(2) that takes an fd and
> syncs only the file system it references.  Maybe someday we can
> 
>  $ sync /some/path
> 
> and not get
> 
>  sync: ignoring all arguments
> 
> The syscall is motivated by comments by Al and Christoph at the last LSF.
> syncfs(2) seems like an appropriate name given statfs(2).
> 
> A similar ioctl was also proposed a while back, see
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=127970513829285&w=2
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>

Reviewed-by: Aneesh Kumar <aneesh.kumar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>

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From: "Aneesh Kumar K. V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	arnd@arndb.de, mtk.manpages@gmail.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	hch@lst.de, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:14:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkp21d1o.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20110311044435.Z4ABuDPGIl0f_yXBZqcPlvkyWNK6lU9hNyclOgHcmaU@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103101125150.4190@cobra.newdream.net>

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:31:30 -0800 (PST), Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net> wrote:
> It is frequently useful to sync a single file system, instead of all
> mounted file systems via sync(2):
> 
>  - On machines with many mounts, it is not at all uncommon for some of
>    them to hang (e.g. unresponsive NFS server).  sync(2) will get stuck on
>    those and may never get to the one you do care about (e.g., /).
>  - Some applications write lots of data to the file system and then
>    want to make sure it is flushed to disk.  Calling fsync(2) on each
>    file introduces unnecessary ordering constraints that result in a large
>    amount of sub-optimal writeback/flush/commit behavior by the file
>    system.
> 
> There are currently two ways (that I know of) to sync a single super_block:
> 
>  - BLKFLSBUF ioctl on the block device: That also invalidates the bdev
>    mapping, which isn't usually desirable, and doesn't work for non-block
>    file systems.
>  - 'mount -o remount,rw' will call sync_filesystem as an artifact of the
>    current implemention.  Relying on this little-known side effect for
>    something like data safety sounds foolish.
> 
> Both of these approaches require root privileges, which some applications
> do not have (nor should they need?) given that sync(2) is an unprivileged
> operation.
> 
> This patch introduces a new system call syncfs(2) that takes an fd and
> syncs only the file system it references.  Maybe someday we can
> 
>  $ sync /some/path
> 
> and not get
> 
>  sync: ignoring all arguments
> 
> The syscall is motivated by comments by Al and Christoph at the last LSF.
> syncfs(2) seems like an appropriate name given statfs(2).
> 
> A similar ioctl was also proposed a while back, see
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=127970513829285&w=2
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>

Reviewed-by: Aneesh Kumar <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-11  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.1102171035220.13904@cobra.newdream.net>
     [not found] ` <20110303072223.GA28133@elie>
     [not found]   ` <87bp1sziqn.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103071515070.11152@cobra.newdream.net>
2011-03-10 19:31       ` [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-10 22:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103101125150.4190-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11  4:44           ` Aneesh Kumar K. V [this message]
2011-03-11  4:44             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-13 20:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-13 20:59           ` Christoph Hellwig

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