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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: paulmck@us.ibm.com, davem@redhat.com
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #5]
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:34:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <895.1143138867@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060316231723.GB1323@us.ibm.com>

Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> smp_mb__before_atomic_dec() and friends as well?

These seem to be something Sparc64 related; or, at least, Sparc64 seems to do
something weird with them.

What are these meant to achieve anyway? They seems to just be barrier() on a
lot of systems, even SMP ones.

> Some architectures have more expansive definition of data dependency,
> including then- and else-clauses being data-dependent on the if-condition,
> but this is probably too much detail.

Linus calls that a "control dependency" and doesn't seem to think that's a
problem as it's sorted out by branch prediction.  What you said makes me
wonder about conditional instructions (such as conditional move).


Anyway, I've incorporated your comments as well as reworking the document,
which I'll shortly push upstream once again.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-23 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060315200956.4a9e2cb3.akpm@osdl.org>
2006-03-09 20:29 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4] David Howells
2006-03-09 23:34   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 23:45     ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-09 23:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-10  0:07         ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-10  0:48     ` Alan Cox
2006-03-10  0:54       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10 15:19     ` David Howells
2006-03-11  0:01       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10  5:28   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 11:10     ` David Howells
2006-03-15 11:51       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 13:47         ` David Howells
2006-03-15 23:21           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-12 17:15   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-14 21:26     ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:48       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-14 23:59         ` David Howells
2006-03-15  0:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:19             ` David Howells
2006-03-15  1:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:25             ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15  0:54           ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-15 14:23   ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #5] David Howells
2006-03-16 23:17     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-16 23:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  1:29         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-17  5:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  6:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-23 18:34       ` David Howells [this message]
2006-03-23 19:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-23 22:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]     ` <21253.1142509812@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603160914410.3618@g5.osdl.org>
2006-03-17  1:20         ` Nick Piggin

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