Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Weaken ctrl dependency definition in explanation.txt

[Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>]

On 8/30/2022 5:08 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/30/2022 4:44 PM, Paul Heidekrüger wrote:
>> The current informal control dependency definition in explanation.txt is
>> too broad and, as dicsussed, needs to be updated.
>>
>> Consider the following example:
>>
>>> if(READ_ONCE(x))
>>> 	return 42;
>>>
>>> 	WRITE_ONCE(y, 42);
>>>
>>> 	return 21;
>>
>> The read event determines whether the write event will be executed "at
>> all" - as per the current definition - but the formal LKMM does not
>> recognize this as a control dependency.
>>
>> Introduce a new defintion which includes the requirement for the second
>> memory access event to syntactically lie within the arm of a non-loop
>> conditional.
>>
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220615114330.2573952-1-paul.heidekrueger@in.tum.de/
>> Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
>> Cc: Charalampos Mainas <charalampos.mainas@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Pramod Bhatotia <pramod.bhatotia@in.tum.de>
>> Cc: Soham Chakraborty <s.s.chakraborty@tudelft.nl>
>> Cc: Martin Fink <martin.fink@in.tum.de>
>> Signed-off-by: Paul Heidekrüger <paul.heidekrueger@in.tum.de>
>> Co-developed-by: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
>> ---
>>
>> @Alan:
>>
>> Since I got it wrong the last time, I'm adding you as a co-developer after my
>> SOB. I'm sorry if this creates extra work on your side due to you having to
>> resubmit the patch now with your SOB if I understand correctly, but since it's
>> based on your wording from the other thread, I definitely wanted to give you
>> credit.
>>
>>  tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt | 7 ++++---
>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
>> index ee819a402b69..0bca50cac5f4 100644
>> --- a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
>> +++ b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
>> @@ -464,9 +464,10 @@ to address dependencies, since the address of a location accessed
>>  through a pointer will depend on the value read earlier from that
>>  pointer.
>>
>> -Finally, a read event and another memory access event are linked by a
>> -control dependency if the value obtained by the read affects whether
>> -the second event is executed at all.  Simple example:
>> +Finally, a read event X and another memory access event Y are linked by
>> +a control dependency if Y syntactically lies within an arm of an if,
>> +else or switch statement and the condition guarding Y is either data or
>> +address-dependent on X.  Simple example:
> 
> 'conditioning guarding Y' sounds confusing to me as it implies to me that the
> condition's evaluation depends on Y. I much prefer Alan's wording from the
> linked post saying something like 'the branch condition is data or address
> dependent on X, and Y lies in one of the arms'.
> 
> I have to ask though, why doesn't this imply that the second instruction never
> executes at all? I believe that would break the MP-pattern if it were not true.

About my last statement, I believe your patch does not disagree with the
correctness of the earlier text but just wants to improve it. If that's case
then that's fine.

 - Joel