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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/10] asm/nospec, array_ptr: sanitize speculative array de-references
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:18:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw-RNg4diZ0RCVkEYAANDp22YDskNOR913vKQEBdarJSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0Y97-gyzWBmcVbUyLuzUG42To=Mm8PAKuzWma6XbFmew@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
>> +                                                                       \
>> +       __u._ptr = _arr + (_i & _mask);                                 \
>> +       __u._bit &= _mask;                                              \
>
> AFAICS, if `idx` is out of bounds, you first zero out the index
> (`_i & _mask`) and then immediately afterwards zero out
> the whole pointer (`_u._bit &= _mask`).
> Is there a reason for the `_i & _mask`, and if so, can you
> add a comment explaining that?

I think that's just leftovers from my original (untested) thing that
also did the access itself. So that __u._bit masking wasn't masking
the pointer, it was masking the value that was *read* from the
pointer, so that you could know that an invalid access returned
0/NULL, not just the first value in the array.

                  Linus

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 02/10] asm/nospec, array_ptr: sanitize speculative array de-references
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:18:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw-RNg4diZ0RCVkEYAANDp22YDskNOR913vKQEBdarJSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20180119181853.ZWcSKSwfcMoOoITWlsf3pk5BfgZxIQnaguWkVxmrVEk@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0Y97-gyzWBmcVbUyLuzUG42To=Mm8PAKuzWma6XbFmew@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
>> +                                                                       \
>> +       __u._ptr = _arr + (_i & _mask);                                 \
>> +       __u._bit &= _mask;                                              \
>
> AFAICS, if `idx` is out of bounds, you first zero out the index
> (`_i & _mask`) and then immediately afterwards zero out
> the whole pointer (`_u._bit &= _mask`).
> Is there a reason for the `_i & _mask`, and if so, can you
> add a comment explaining that?

I think that's just leftovers from my original (untested) thing that
also did the access itself. So that __u._bit masking wasn't masking
the pointer, it was masking the value that was *read* from the
pointer, so that you could know that an invalid access returned
0/NULL, not just the first value in the array.

                  Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19  0:01 [PATCH v4 00/10] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] Documentation: document array_ptr Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] asm/nospec, array_ptr: sanitize speculative array de-references Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 10:20   ` [kernel-hardening] " Jann Horn
2018-01-19 17:48     ` Adam Sampson
2018-01-19 17:48       ` Adam Sampson
2018-01-19 18:12       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 18:18         ` Will Deacon
2018-01-19 18:18           ` [kernel-hardening] " Will Deacon
2018-01-19 18:26           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19 18:18     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-01-19 18:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-19 20:55       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-25  7:09   ` Cyril Novikov
2018-01-25  7:09     ` Cyril Novikov
2018-01-25 22:37     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-25 22:37       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] x86: implement array_ptr_mask() Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] x86: introduce __uaccess_begin_nospec and ifence Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] x86, __get_user: use __uaccess_begin_nospec Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] x86, get_user: use pointer masking to limit speculation Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] x86: narrow out of bounds syscalls to sys_read under speculation Dan Williams
2018-01-24 14:40   ` Jiri Slaby
2018-02-06 19:29   ` Luis Henriques
2018-02-06 19:48     ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 19:48       ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 20:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:37         ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 20:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-06 20:49               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-06 20:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 20:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 21:37                 ` Dan Williams
2018-02-06 22:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 22:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-07  0:33                     ` Dan Williams
2018-02-07  1:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-06 22:51       ` Luis Henriques
2018-02-06 22:51         ` Luis Henriques
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] vfs, fdtable: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] kvm, x86: fix spectre-v1 mitigation Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-19  8:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-19  8:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found] ` <151632009605.21271.11304291057104672116.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-19  0:02   ` [PATCH v4 10/10] nl80211: sanitize array index in parse_txq_params Dan Williams
2018-01-19  0:02     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-21 10:37     ` Johannes Berg
2018-01-20  6:58 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-20  6:58   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-20 16:56   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-20 16:56     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-20 17:07     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-20 17:07       ` Alexei Starovoitov

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