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From: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
To: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
Cc: Vinicius Petrucci <vpetrucci@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  linux-mm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	minchan@kernel.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,  x86@kernel.org,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com,
	 ying.huang@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, fvdl@google.com,
	 surenb@google.com, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mhocko@suse.com,  Hasan.Maruf@amd.com, jgroves@micron.com,
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	emirakhur@micron.com, vtavarespetr@micron.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm/mbind: Introduce process_mbind() syscall for external memory binding
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:53:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACSyD1PCjPEwPCVXKVULjbNwxUG89DZUUfiDLg+wFyJRJXAPzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWizUEd/rsxSc0fW@memverge.com>

>
> Hi ZhongKun!
>
> I actually just sent out a more general RFC to mempolicy updates that
> discuss this more completely:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ZWezcQk+BYEq%2FWiI@memverge.com/
>

OK.

> and another post on even more issues with pidfd modifications to vma
> mempolicies:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ZWYsth2CtC4Ilvoz@memverge.com/
>
> We may have to slow-walk the changes to vma policies due to there being
> many more hidden accesses to (current) than expected. It's a rather
> nasty rats nest of mempolicy-vma-cpusets-shmem callbacks that obscure
> these current-task accesses, it will take time to work through.
>

Got it, thanks. It's more complicated than I thought.

> As for hot-path reference counting - we may need to change the way
> mempolicy is managed, possibly we could leverage RCU to manage mempolicy
> references in the hot path, rather than using locks.  In this scenario,
> we would likely need to change the way the default policy is applied
> (maybe not, I haven't fully explored it).
>

RCU may have a long time in the read-side critical section.

We should probably replace the atomic_t refcnt with percpu_ref in
mempolicy(also suggested by Michal), but refactoring work involves
a lot of code.

A simple way is to use task_work to release the mempolicy which may
be used by alloc_pages(). But it doesn't have a direct result.

> Do you have thoughts on this?  Would very much like additional comments
> before I go through the refactor work.
>
> Regards,
> Gregory

      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-22 21:31 [RFC PATCH] mm/mbind: Introduce process_mbind() syscall for external memory binding Vinicius Petrucci
2023-11-22 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-22 21:45   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-22 23:57   ` Vinicius Petrucci
2023-11-22 23:53 ` Gregory Price
2023-11-23 15:21   ` Vinicius Petrucci
2023-11-24  8:13 ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-23 21:42   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-30  9:34     ` Zhongkun He
2023-11-30 16:07       ` Gregory Price
2023-12-01 13:53         ` Zhongkun He [this message]

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