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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:28:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWLAS4sSmN4ejVhK3vDsqNEQEh3RU5ps1iXtAoighaYsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJjihEU0HkSTWJymLZ5y=J03bkBHNgVf9QOSgWz6bf-SQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> If CONFIG_VMAP_STACK is selected, kernel stacks are allocated with
>>>> vmalloc_node.
>>> [...]
>>>>  static struct thread_info *alloc_thread_info_node(struct task_struct *tsk,
>>>>                                                   int node)
>>>>  {
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_VMAP_STACK
>>>> +       struct thread_info *ti = __vmalloc_node_range(
>>>> +               THREAD_SIZE, THREAD_SIZE, VMALLOC_START, VMALLOC_END,
>>>> +               THREADINFO_GFP | __GFP_HIGHMEM, PAGE_KERNEL,
>>>> +               0, node, __builtin_return_address(0));
>>>> +
>>>
>>> After spender gave some hints on IRC about the guard pages not working
>>> reliably, I decided to have a closer look at this. As far as I can
>>> tell, the idea is that __vmalloc_node_range() automatically adds guard
>>> pages unless the VM_NO_GUARD flag is specified. However, those guard
>>> pages are *behind* allocations, not in front of them, while a stack
>>> guard primarily needs to be in front of the allocation. This wouldn't
>>> matter if all allocations in the vmalloc area had guard pages behind
>>> them, but if someone first does some data allocation with VM_NO_GUARD
>>> and then a stack allocation directly behind that, there won't be a
>>> guard between the data allocation and the stack allocation.
>>
>> I'm tempted to explicitly disallow VM_NO_GUARD in the vmalloc range.
>> It has no in-tree users for non-fixed addresses right now.
>
> What about the lack of pre-range guard page? That seems like a
> critical feature for this. :)
>

Agreed.  There's a big va hole there on x86_64, but I don't know about
other arches.  It might pay to add something to the vmalloc core code.
Any volunteers?

> -Kees
>
> --
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS & Brillo Security



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-20 23:43 [PATCH v3 00/13] Virtually mapped stacks with guard pages (x86, core) Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] x86/mm/hotplug: Don't remove PGD entries in remove_pagetable() Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] x86/cpa: In populate_pgd, don't set the pgd entry until it's populated Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] x86/mm: Remove kernel_unmap_pages_in_pgd() and efi_cleanup_page_tables() Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  9:53   ` Matt Fleming
2016-06-21  9:53     ` Matt Fleming
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] mm: Track NR_KERNEL_STACK in KiB instead of number of stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  9:46   ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-21  9:46     ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-22  7:35   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-22  7:35     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] mm: Fix memcg stack accounting for sub-page stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  9:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-21  9:54     ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-22  7:38   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-22  7:38     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  7:30   ` Jann Horn
2016-06-21 16:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 16:59       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:13       ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:13         ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:28         ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-06-21 17:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:32         ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:32           ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 19:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 19:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:43               ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:44             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-11 17:00           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] x86/die: Don't try to recover from an OOPS on a non-default stack Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] x86/dumpstack: When OOPSing, rewind the stack before do_exit Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] x86/dumpstack: When dumping stack bytes due to OOPS, start with regs->sp Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] x86/dumpstack: Try harder to get a call trace on stack overflow Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] x86/dumpstack/64: Handle faults when printing the "Stack:" part of an OOPS Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] x86/mm/64: Enable vmapped stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] x86/mm: Improve stack-overflow #PF handling Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] Virtually mapped stacks with guard pages (x86, core) Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21  4:01   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 16:45   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 16:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 17:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 17:27       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:27         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:12         ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:12           ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:19           ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:19             ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-23  1:22   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23  6:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23  6:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 14:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 16:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 16:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 17:10             ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 17:10               ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-06 16:19             ` Jann Horn
2016-09-06 16:40               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-06 16:40                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 17:03           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 17:44             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 17:44               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 17:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 18:00                 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 18:00                   ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 18:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:54                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:12                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 18:55                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:08                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:08                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 18:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:09                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:13                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24  6:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 12:25                       ` Brian Gerst
2016-06-24 17:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:47                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 17:56                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 18:36                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 18:36                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 17:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 18:11                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 20:25                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:51                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:51                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:53                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 20:53                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:06                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:25                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:25                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:32                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:32                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:34                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:34                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25  2:41                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-25 23:19                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25 23:19                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25 23:30                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-26  1:23                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 18:52               ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 18:52                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-24 14:05                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 14:05                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 15:06                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 15:06                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 20:22                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-27 10:36                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-23 19:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-21  9:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21  9:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 17:16   ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:16     ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:02     ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:02       ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:05         ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:47     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 19:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 20:18         ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 20:18           ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 19:47       ` Arnd Bergmann

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