From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
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"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Mitchell Levy" <levymitchell0@gmail.com>,
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"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:40:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DAJHY74JP27K.3VV3U3W0A9PCN@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEh_HEwSh2w0Ajkq@tardis.local>
On Tue Jun 10, 2025 at 8:53 PM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 10:58:30AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 10:30:55AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
>> [...]
>> > > > +/// Describes the exact memory ordering of an `impl` [`All`].
>> > > > +pub enum OrderingDesc {
>> > >
>> > > Why not name this `Ordering`?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I was trying to avoid having an `Ordering` enum in a `ordering` mod.
>> > Also I want to save the name "Ordering" for the generic type parameter
>> > of an atomic operation, e.g.
>> >
>> > pub fn xchg<Ordering: ALL>(..)
>> >
>> > this enum is more of an internal implementation detail, and users should
>> > not use this enum directly, so I would like to avoid potential
>> > confusion.
>> >
>> > I have played a few sealed trait tricks on my end, but seems I cannot
>> > achieve:
>> >
>> > 1) `OrderingDesc` is only accessible in the atomic mod.
>> > 2) `All` is only impl-able in the atomic mod, while it can be used as a
>> > trait bound outside kernel crate.
>> >
>> > Maybe there is a trick I'm missing?
>> >
>>
>> Something like this seems to work:
>>
>> pub(super) mod private {
>> /// Describes the exact memory ordering of an `impl` [`All`].
>> pub enum Ordering {
>> /// Relaxed ordering.
>> Relaxed,
>> /// Acquire ordering.
>> Acquire,
>> /// Release ordering.
>> Release,
>> /// Fully-ordered.
>> Full,
>> }
>>
>> pub trait HasOrderingDesc {
>> /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
>> const ORDERING: Ordering;
>> }
>> }
>>
>> /// The trait bound for annotating operations that should support all orderings.
>> pub trait All: private::HasOrderingDesc { }
>>
>> impl private::HasOrderingDesc for Relaxed {
>> const ORDERING: private::Ordering = private::Ordering::Relaxed;
>> }
>>
>> the trick is to seal the enum and the trait together.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Boqun
>>
>> > > > + /// Relaxed ordering.
>> > > > + Relaxed,
>> > > > + /// Acquire ordering.
>> > > > + Acquire,
>> > > > + /// Release ordering.
>> > > > + Release,
>> > > > + /// Fully-ordered.
>> > > > + Full,
>> > > > +}
>> > > > +
>> > > > +/// The trait bound for annotating operations that should support all orderings.
>> > > > +pub trait All {
>> > > > + /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
>> > > > + const ORDER: OrderingDesc;
>> > >
>> > > And then here: `ORDERING`.
>> >
>
> After a second thought, the following is probably what I will go for:
>
> /// The annotation type for relaxed memory ordering.
> pub struct Relaxed;
>
> /// The annotation type for acquire memory ordering.
> pub struct Acquire;
>
> /// The annotation type for release memory ordering.
> pub struct Release;
>
> /// The annotation type for fully-order memory ordering.
> pub struct Full;
>
> /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> pub enum OrderingType {
> /// Relaxed ordering.
> Relaxed,
> /// Acquire ordering.
> Acquire,
> /// Release ordering.
> Release,
> /// Fully-ordered.
> Full,
> }
>
> mod internal {
> /// Unit types for ordering annotation.
> ///
> /// Sealed trait, can be only implemented inside atomic mod.
> pub trait OrderingUnit {
> /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> const TYPE: super::OrderingType;
> }
> }
>
> impl internal::OrderingUnit for Relaxed {
> const TYPE: OrderingType = OrderingType::Relaxed;
> }
>
> impl internal::OrderingUnit for Acquire {
> const TYPE: OrderingType = OrderingType::Acquire;
> }
>
> impl internal::OrderingUnit for Release {
> const TYPE: OrderingType = OrderingType::Release;
> }
>
> impl internal::OrderingUnit for Full {
> const TYPE: OrderingType = OrderingType::Full;
> }
>
> That is:
>
> 1) Rename "OrderingDesc" into "OrderingType", and make it public.
> 2) Provide a sealed trait (`OrderingUnit`) for all the unit types
> that describe ordering.
> 3) Instead of "ORDER" or "ORDERING", name the enum constant "TYPE".
>
>
> An example shows why is probably an xchg() implementation, if I was to
> follow the previous naming suggestion, it will be:
>
> match Ordering::ORDERING {
> <some mode path>::Ordering::Relaxed => atomic_xchg_relaxed(...),
> ...
> }
>
> with the current one, it will be:
>
> match Ordering::TYPE {
> // assume we "use ordering::OrderingType"
> OrderingType::Relaxed => atomic_xchg_relaxed(...),
> ...
> }
>
> I think this version is much better.
Agreed :)
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-11 6:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-09 22:46 [PATCH v4 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-06-10 9:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-10 17:30 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-10 17:58 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-10 18:53 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-11 6:40 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<*mut T> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
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