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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu-rwsem: use barrier in unlock path
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:17:29 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210181216590.22996@file.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1350533619.19292.59.camel@pippen.local.home>



On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 10:18 +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Looking at the patch, you are correct. The read side doesn't need the
> > > memory barrier as the worse thing that will happen is that it sees the
> > > locked = false, and will just grab the mutex unnecessarily.
> > 
> > ---------------------
> > A memory barrier can be added iff these two things are known:
> > 	1) it disables the disordering between what and what.
> > 	2) what is the corresponding mb() that it pairs with.
> > 
> 
> OK, I was just looking at the protection and actions of the locked flag,
> but I see what you are saying with the data itself.
> 
> > You tried to add a mb() in percpu_up_write(), OK, I know it disables the disordering
> > between the writes to the protected data and the statement "p->locked = false",
> > But I can't find out the corresponding mb() that it pairs with.
> > 
> > percpu_down_read()					writes to the data
> > 	The cpu cache/prefetch the data			writes to the data
> > 	which is chaos					writes to the data
> > 							percpu_up_write()
> > 								mb()
> > 								p->locked = false;
> > 	unlikely(p->locked)
> > 		the cpu see p->lock = false,
> > 		don't discard the cached/prefetch data
> > 	this_cpu_inc(*p->counters);
> > 	the code of read-access to the data
> > 	****and we use the chaos data*****
> > 
> > So you need to add a mb() after "unlikely(p->locked)".
> 
> Does it need a full mb() or could it be just a rmb()? The down_read I
> wouldn't think would need to protect against stores, would it? The
> memory barrier should probably go in front of the unlikely() too. The
> write to p->counters is handled by the synchronized sched, and adding a
> rmb() in front of the unlikely check would keep prefetched data from
> passing this barrier.
> 
> This is a perfect example why this primitive should be vetted outside of
> mainline before it gets merged.
> 
> -- Steve

If we do synchronize_rcu() in percpu_up_write, we don't need a barrier in 
percpu_down_read(). So I would do that.

Mikulas

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-18 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210151716310.10685@file.rdu.redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210161924350.20581@file.rdu.redhat.com>
2012-10-17  2:23   ` [PATCH] percpu-rwsem: use barrier in unlock path Linus Torvalds
2012-10-17  5:58     ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-17  5:58       ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-17 15:07       ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-17 20:28         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-17 20:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-18  2:18           ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-18  4:13             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-18 16:17               ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2012-10-18 15:32             ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-18 19:56             ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-18 16:05           ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-17  9:56     ` Alan Cox
2012-10-18 16:00     ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-19 18:48       ` Linus Torvalds

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