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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 29/32] KVM: arm64: Pass hypercalls to userspace
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 17:19:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+E2nVnadj1emNs5@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <865ycg1kv2.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 10:12:49AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2023 13:50:40 +0000,
> James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
> > 
> > When capability KVM_CAP_ARM_HVC_TO_USER is available, userspace can
> > request to handle all hypercalls that aren't handled by KVM. With the
> > help of another capability, this will allow userspace to handle PSCI
> > calls.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
> > Signed-off-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> 
> On top of Oliver's ask not to make this a blanket "steal everything",
> but instead to have an actual request for ranges of forwarded
> hypercalls:
> 
> > Notes on this implementation:
> > 
> > * A similar mechanism was proposed for SDEI some time ago [1]. This RFC
> >   generalizes the idea to all hypercalls, since that was suggested on
> >   the list [2, 3].
> > 
> > * We're reusing kvm_run.hypercall. I copied x0-x5 into
> >   kvm_run.hypercall.args[] to help userspace but I'm tempted to remove
> >   this, because:
> >   - Most user handlers will need to write results back into the
> >     registers (x0-x3 for SMCCC), so if we keep this shortcut we should
> >     go all the way and read them back on return to kernel.
> >   - QEMU doesn't care about this shortcut, it pulls all vcpu regs before
> >     handling the call.
> >   - SMCCC uses x0-x16 for parameters.
> >   x0 does contain the SMCCC function ID and may be useful for fast
> >   dispatch, we could keep that plus the immediate number.
> > 
> > * Add a flag in the kvm_run.hypercall telling whether this is HVC or
> >   SMC?  Can be added later in those bottom longmode and pad fields.
> 
> We definitely need this. A nested hypervisor can (and does) use SMCs
> as the conduit. The question is whether they represent two distinct
> namespaces or not. I *think* we can unify them, but someone should
> check and maybe get clarification from the owners of the SMCCC spec.
> 
> >
> > * On top of this we could share with userspace which HVC ranges are
> >   available and which ones are handled by KVM. That can actually be added
> >   independently, through a vCPU/VM device attribute which doesn't consume
> >   a new ioctl:
> >   - userspace issues HAS_ATTR ioctl on the vcpu fd to query whether this
> >     feature is available.
> >   - userspace queries the number N of HVC ranges using one GET_ATTR.
> >   - userspace passes an array of N ranges using another GET_ATTR. The
> >     array is filled and returned by KVM.
> 
> As mentioned above, I think this interface should go both ways.
> Userspace should request the forwarding of a certain range of
> hypercalls via a similar SET_ATTR interface.
> 
> Another question is how we migrate VMs that have these forwarding
> requirements. Do we expect the VMM to replay the forwarding as part of
> the setting up on the other side? Or do we save/restore this via a
> firmware pseudo-register?

Personally I'd prefer we left that job to userspace.

We could also implement GET_ATTR, in case userspace has forgotten what
it wrote to the hypercall filter. The firmware pseudo-registers are
handy for moving KVM state back and forth 'for free', but I don't think
we need to bend over backwards to migrate state userspace is directly
responsible for.

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-03 13:50 [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 01/32] ia64: Fix build error due to switch case label appearing next to declaration James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 02/32] ACPI: Move ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to be enabled per architecture James Morse
2023-08-30 18:31   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 03/32] drivers: base: Use present CPUs in GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 04/32] drivers: base: Allow parts of GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES to be overridden James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 05/32] drivers: base: Move cpu_dev_init() after node_dev_init() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 06/32] arm64: setup: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES using arch_register_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 07/32] ia64/topology: Switch over to GENERIC_CPU_DEVICES James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 08/32] x86/topology: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 09/32] LoongArch: " James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 10/32] arch_topology: Make register_cpu_capacity_sysctl() tolerant to late CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 11/32] ACPI: processor: Add support for processors described as container packages James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 12/32] ACPI: processor: Register CPUs that are online, but not described in the DSDT James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 13/32] ACPI: processor: Register all CPUs from acpi_processor_get_info() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 14/32] ACPI: Rename ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU to include 'present' James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 15/32] ACPI: Move acpi_bus_trim_one() before acpi_scan_hot_remove() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/32] ACPI: Rename acpi_processor_hotadd_init and remove pre-processor guards James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 17/32] ACPI: Add post_eject to struct acpi_scan_handler for cpu hotplug James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 18/32] ACPI: Check _STA present bit before making CPUs not present James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 19/32] ACPI: Warn when the present bit changes but the feature is not enabled James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 20/32] drivers: base: Implement weak arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 21/32] LoongArch: Use the __weak version of arch_unregister_cpu() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 22/32] arm64: acpi: Move get_cpu_for_acpi_id() to a header James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 23/32] ACPICA: Add new MADT GICC flags fields [code first?] James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 24/32] arm64, irqchip/gic-v3, ACPI: Move MADT GICC enabled check into a helper James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 25/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Don't return errors from gic_acpi_match_gicc() James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 26/32] irqchip/gic-v3: Add support for ACPI's disabled but 'online capable' CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 27/32] arm64: psci: Ignore DENIED CPUs James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 28/32] ACPI: add support to register CPUs based on the _STA enabled bit James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 29/32] KVM: arm64: Pass hypercalls to userspace James Morse
2023-02-03 21:08   ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  9:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-05 10:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-06 10:10     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 12:31       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07  9:41         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-07 11:23           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-07 12:46             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-02-06 17:19     ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2023-02-07 17:50     ` James Morse
2023-02-08  8:40       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-08 14:25         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-11  1:44       ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 30/32] KVM: arm64: Pass PSCI calls " James Morse
2023-05-23  9:32   ` Salil Mehta
2023-09-12 17:01     ` James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 31/32] arm64: document virtual CPU hotplug's expectations James Morse
2023-02-03 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH 32/32] cpumask: Add enabled cpumask for present CPUs that can be brought online James Morse
2023-03-07 12:00 ` [RFC PATCH 00/32] ACPI/arm64: add support for virtual cpuhotplug Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-13 15:50   ` James Morse
2023-03-14 11:02     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-29  2:35 ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-12 17:01   ` James Morse
2023-09-12 22:38     ` Gavin Shan
2023-09-13 15:28       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-29  5:52 ` Shaoqin Huang
2023-04-03  6:25   ` Gavin Shan

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