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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev,
	Michael Guralnik <michaelgur@mellanox.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 1/2] arm64/io: add memcpy_toio_64
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 19:34:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZW97VdHYH3HYVyd5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231205175127.GJ2692119@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 01:51:27PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:21:27PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 02:23:30PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:31:47PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > Personally I'd optimise the mempcy_toio() arm64 implementation to do
> > > > STPs if the alignment is right (like we do for classic memcpy()).
> > > > There's a slight overhead for alignment checking but I suspect it would
> > > > be lost as long as you can get the write-combining. Not sure whether the
> > > > interspersed reads in memcpy_toio() would somehow prevent the
> > > > write-combining.
> > > 
> > > I understand on these new CPUs anything other than a block of
> > > contiguous STPs is risky to break the WC. I was told we should not
> > > have any loads between them.
> > 
> > Classic memcpy does similar tricks with four LDPs in a row before
> > starting to issue the STPs (though there are new LDPs for the next
> > data in-between). But that was tuned for cacheable memory, not sure
> > if something similar would behave well on Normal-NC memory.
> 
> Can we conclude a direction here?
> 
> 1) I don't want to mess with x86 so we keep a dedicated API
>    Are we agreed to call it __iowrite512_copy() and note its special
>    alignment limitation?

Sounds fine to me.

> 2) You want to #define __iowrite512_copy() to memcpy_toio() on ARM and
>    implement some quad STP optimization for this case?

We can have the generic __iowrite512_copy() do memcpy_toio() and have
the arm64 implement an optimised version.

What I'm not entirely sure of is the DGH (whatever the io_* barrier name
is). I'd put it in the same __iowrite512_copy() function and remove it
from the driver code. Otherwise when ST64B is added, we have an
unnecessary DGH in the driver. If this does not match the other
__iowrite*_copy() semantics, we can come up with another name. But start
with this for now and document the function.

> 3) A future ST64B and the x86 version would be put under
>    __iowrite512_copy()?

Yes, arch-specific override.

> 4) A future ST64B would come with some kind of 'must do 64b copy or
>    oops' to support the future HW that must have this instruction? eg
>    we already see on Intel that HW must use ENQCMD and nothing else.

I don't agree with the oops part. We can't guarantee it on arm64, ST64B
I think is optional in the architecture. If you do need such guarantees,
we'd need the driver to probe for the feature (e.g. arch_has_...()) and
invoke a new macro. You can't have the __iowrite512_copy() that worked
fine suddenly giving an error just because some driver wants a
guaranteed atomic 64 byte write.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-05 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-23 19:04 [PATCH rdma-next 0/2] Add and use memcpy_toio_64() Leon Romanovsky
2023-11-23 19:04 ` [PATCH rdma-next 1/2] arm64/io: add memcpy_toio_64 Leon Romanovsky
2023-11-24 10:16   ` Mark Rutland
2023-11-24 12:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 12:42       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-27 13:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-04 17:31           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-04 18:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 17:21               ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 17:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 19:34                   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2023-12-05 19:51                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 11:09                       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 12:59                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-16 18:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 12:30                             ` Mark Rutland
2024-01-17 12:36                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 12:41                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 13:29                                 ` Mark Rutland
2024-01-23 20:38                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-24  1:27                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24  8:26                                       ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-24 13:06                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24 13:32                                           ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-24 15:52                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24 17:54                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-25  1:29                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-26 16:15                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-26 17:09                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24 11:38                                     ` Mark Rutland
2024-01-24 12:40                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-24 13:27                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24 17:22                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-24 19:26                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-25 17:43                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-26 14:56                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-01-26 15:24                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 14:07                               ` Mark Rutland
2024-01-17 15:28                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 16:05                                   ` Will Deacon
2024-01-18 16:18                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-24 11:31                                       ` Mark Rutland
2023-11-24 12:58   ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-24 13:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-24 15:32       ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-24 14:10   ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-11-24 14:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-24 14:48       ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-11-24 14:53         ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-11-24 14:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-24 15:59           ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-11-24 16:06             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 17:43               ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-11-27 17:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 16:28                   ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-16 17:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 13:20                       ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-17 13:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-17 17:55                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-18 13:46                             ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-18 14:00                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-18 15:59                                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-18 16:21                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-18 16:25                                     ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-19 11:52                                       ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-02-16 12:09                                   ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-02-16 12:39                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-23 19:04 ` [PATCH rdma-next 2/2] IB/mlx5: Use memcpy_toio_64() for write combining stores Leon Romanovsky

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