From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70A041CB33E; Fri, 6 Sep 2024 11:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1725623036; cv=none; b=BIV2S24x1CoKvzaDJ0Oi4QynN0eCgLgo5sqLBMB4lKol4rWM95bnwBI4IxUlKQQWrzUOg9r46CUerC/ZNoDgBXkXUBeIqB4SZhLj8Pmt9KVJOPagr5z5AFbEHt0Cq85cwEdePNwj0OtfxG+7m9Z8xMrUimIy/SK8gvgzSLN+fgg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1725623036; c=relaxed/simple; bh=i5Vj6pTtqAFcekgqdft2a7YaCzfD36iQZL5KAInZPtA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=e+CLoLxfdcUJacooRDfKkXx+HC3//KklOx+ovesDoCFmHXW9CnLcPHN5+n6fgzChtDbfaGKIUcEiR77IlVgKhsAw2iw5VFP5f63qyOyh8IVaf8lyQalQPUP4Rj51A1IaRTr3I9YTzZrQKF7eA+zvgJjHSHjGjVXWL9EM94P9bPY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFE75C4CEC4; Fri, 6 Sep 2024 11:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:43:44 +0100 From: Catalin Marinas To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: guoren , Charlie Jenkins , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Vineet Gupta , Russell King , Huacai Chen , WANG Xuerui , Thomas Bogendoerfer , "James E . J . Bottomley" , Helge Deller , Michael Ellerman , Nicholas Piggin , Christophe Leroy , Naveen N Rao , Alexander Gordeev , Gerald Schaefer , Heiko Carstens , Vasily Gorbik , Christian Borntraeger , Sven Schnelle , Yoshinori Sato , Rich Felker , John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , "David S . Miller" , Andreas Larsson , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" , Andy Lutomirski , Peter Zijlstra , Muchun Song , Andrew Morton , "Liam R. Howlett" , Vlastimil Babka , Lorenzo Stoakes , shuah , Christoph Hellwig , Michal Hocko , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Chris Torek , Linux-Arch , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, "linux-csky@vger.kernel.org" , loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-abi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] mm: Add personality flag to limit address to 47 bits Message-ID: References: <20240905-patches-below_hint_mmap-v3-0-3cd5564efbbb@rivosinc.com> <20240905-patches-below_hint_mmap-v3-1-3cd5564efbbb@rivosinc.com> <9fc4746b-8e9d-4a75-b966-e0906187e6b7@app.fastmail.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 09:55:42AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2024, at 09:14, Guo Ren wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 3:18 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > >> It's also unclear to me how we want this flag to interact with > >> the existing logic in arch_get_mmap_end(), which attempts to > >> limit the default mapping to a 47-bit address space already. > > > > To optimize RISC-V progress, I recommend: > > > > Step 1: Approve the patch. > > Step 2: Update Go and OpenJDK's RISC-V backend to utilize it. > > Step 3: Wait approximately several iterations for Go & OpenJDK > > Step 4: Remove the 47-bit constraint in arch_get_mmap_end() > > I really want to first see a plausible explanation about why > RISC-V can't just implement this using a 47-bit DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW > like all the other major architectures (x86, arm64, powerpc64), FWIW arm64 actually limits DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW to 48-bit in the default configuration. We end up with a 47-bit with 16K pages but for a different reason that has to do with LPA2 support (I doubt we need this for the user mapping but we need to untangle some of the macros there; that's for a separate discussion). That said, we haven't encountered any user space problems with a 48-bit DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW. So I also think RISC-V should follow a similar approach (47 or 48 bit default limit). Better to have some ABI consistency between architectures. One can still ask for addresses above this default limit via mmap(). -- Catalin