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From: Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:09:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae3b48ef-6bb0-2bc2-eca6-651fdb2dce37@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121163711.2c00316784d221eb1750edb0@linux-foundation.org>

Hi, Andrew:

On 11/21/18 4:37 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:46:29 +0100 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/29, Enke Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
>>
>> Hmm. I didn't say this ;)
>>
>> But OK, feel free to keep this tag.
>>
>> I do not like this feauture.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
>> But I see no technical problems in this version
>> and I never pretented I understand the user-space needs, so I won't argue.
> 
> The changelog appears to spell this all out quite well?  Unusually
> well, in my experience ;)

I also followed up with a little more explanation in the email thread on
10/30/2018:

---
As I explained earlier, the primary application is in the area of network
high-availability / non-stop-forwarding where early fault notification and
early action can help maintain BFD sessions and thus avoid unnecessary
disruption to forwarding while the control-plane is recovering.
---

BTW, I probably should have pointed out this earlier:

BFD stands for "RFC 5880: Bi-directional forwarding detection".

> 
> A couple of things...
> 
> - We'll be looking for a manpage update please.  (Search MAINTAINERS
>   for "manpage")

Yes, I will submit a manpage update.  Most of the text is already
written in the patch description.

> 
> - As it's a linux-specific feature, a test under
>   tools/testing/selftests would be appropriate.  I don't know how much
>   that work will be. 

The selftest code was submitted on 10/25/2018:

   [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification

> Do we have other linux-specific signal extensions which could piggyback onto that?

No. There are enough existing signals that an application can choose for this
purpose, such as SIGUSR1, SIGUSR1, and any of the RT signals.

Thanks.  -- Enke

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Marcos Paulo de Souza <marcos.souza.org@gmail.com>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Victor Kamensky (kamensky)" <kamensky@cisco.com>,
	xe-linux-external@cisco.com, Stefan Strogin <sstrogin@cisco.com>,
	Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:09:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae3b48ef-6bb0-2bc2-eca6-651fdb2dce37@cisco.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181122010950._00aO8i_dqt1bEDTANOqdAuyrW8iqQP61LeN8z-j2JI@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121163711.2c00316784d221eb1750edb0@linux-foundation.org>

Hi, Andrew:

On 11/21/18 4:37 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:46:29 +0100 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/29, Enke Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
>>
>> Hmm. I didn't say this ;)
>>
>> But OK, feel free to keep this tag.
>>
>> I do not like this feauture.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
>> But I see no technical problems in this version
>> and I never pretented I understand the user-space needs, so I won't argue.
> 
> The changelog appears to spell this all out quite well?  Unusually
> well, in my experience ;)

I also followed up with a little more explanation in the email thread on
10/30/2018:

---
As I explained earlier, the primary application is in the area of network
high-availability / non-stop-forwarding where early fault notification and
early action can help maintain BFD sessions and thus avoid unnecessary
disruption to forwarding while the control-plane is recovering.
---

BTW, I probably should have pointed out this earlier:

BFD stands for "RFC 5880: Bi-directional forwarding detection".

> 
> A couple of things...
> 
> - We'll be looking for a manpage update please.  (Search MAINTAINERS
>   for "manpage")

Yes, I will submit a manpage update.  Most of the text is already
written in the patch description.

> 
> - As it's a linux-specific feature, a test under
>   tools/testing/selftests would be appropriate.  I don't know how much
>   that work will be. 

The selftest code was submitted on 10/25/2018:

   [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification

> Do we have other linux-specific signal extensions which could piggyback onto that?

No. There are enough existing signals that an application can choose for this
purpose, such as SIGUSR1, SIGUSR1, and any of the RT signals.

Thanks.  -- Enke

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-22  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-13  0:33 [PATCH] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Enke Chen
2018-10-13  0:33 ` Enke Chen
2018-10-13  6:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-13  6:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:16   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:16     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:43     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:43       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:49       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:49         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:58         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:58           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-13 10:44 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-13 10:44   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-15 18:39   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:39     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-13 18:27 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-13 18:27   ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 18:36   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:36     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:54     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 18:54       ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 19:23       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:23         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-19 23:01       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-19 23:01         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-22 15:40         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-22 15:40           ` Jann Horn
2018-10-22 20:48           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-22 20:48             ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 12:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-15 12:05   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-15 18:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:54     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:17   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:17     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:26     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:26       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 14:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-16 14:14       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-16 15:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16 15:09         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-17  0:39       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-17  0:39         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-15 21:21   ` Alan Cox
2018-10-15 21:31   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 21:31     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 23:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-15 23:28   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16  0:33   ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-10-16  0:33     ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-10-16  0:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16  0:54     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 15:26     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16 15:26       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-22 21:09 ` [PATCH v2] " Enke Chen
2018-10-22 21:09   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23  9:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-23  9:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-23 19:43     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 19:43       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 21:40       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 21:40         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 13:52         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 21:56           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24  5:39   ` [PATCH v3] " Enke Chen
2018-10-24  5:39     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 14:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 14:02       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 22:02       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 22:02         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH v4] " Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-26  8:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26  8:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 22:23         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-26 22:23           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 11:18           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 11:18             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 21:08             ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 21:08               ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 22:31             ` [PATCH v5] " Enke Chen
2018-10-29 22:31               ` Enke Chen
2018-10-30 16:46               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-30 16:46                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-31  0:25                 ` Enke Chen
2018-10-31  0:25                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  0:37                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  0:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:09                   ` Enke Chen [this message]
2018-11-22  1:09                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:18                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:18                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:33                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:33                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  4:57                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  4:57                         ` Enke Chen
2018-11-12 23:22               ` Enke Chen
2018-11-12 23:22                 ` Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54               ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54                 ` Enke Chen
2018-11-28 15:19                 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-28 15:19                   ` Dave Martin
2018-11-29  0:15                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-29  0:15                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-29 11:55                     ` Dave Martin
2018-11-29 11:55                       ` Dave Martin
2018-11-30  0:27                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-30  0:27                         ` Enke Chen
2018-11-30 12:03                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-11-30 12:03                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-12-05  6:47                       ` Jann Horn
2018-12-05  6:47                         ` Jann Horn
2018-12-04 22:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-12-04 22:37                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-12-06 17:29                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-12-06 17:29                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] " Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:29   ` [PATCH v2] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-24 13:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-24 23:50     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 23:50       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 12:23       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 12:23         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 20:45         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 20:45           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:24         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:24           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:56           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 13:45     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-25 13:45       ` Jann Horn
2018-10-25 20:21       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 20:21         ` Eric W. Biederman

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